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Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by laputan_machine on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:27AM (#28275351)
It's not about children getting it and being ill, it's about children getting it and spreading it. This is the concept behind 'herd immunity'. If we can cut the chain, we mitigate older and people with weakened immune systems from getting it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by hutzlibu on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:33AM (#28275428)
Yes, but parent poster wrote: "Any talk of lifting restrictions before march is basically a re-formulated "fuck the kids"."

which is not honest in my opinion. The kids so far have suffered the most from corona - no school, no friends - no activities - yet had the least, to fear from it.

So vaccinating the kids is not really about saving the kids - it is about the older population.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by cm2187 on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:32AM (#28275418)
But if vaccinated people are also spreading it, I don't get the point of waiting for kids to be vaccinated.

The population at risk being vaccinated was the big deal, but that's done now (apart from those who refuse to be vaccinated, but then it is their problem).

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by ceejayoz on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:34AM (#28275448)
> Bit if vaccinated people are also spreading it

They are less likely to be infected, and it looks like they have a shorter infectious period.

Herd immunity may be achievable with this in mind, but no one really knows right now. New variants may change the calculus too.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by nradov on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:17AM (#28277113)
The Delta variant is contagious enough that we'll never achieve a level of herd immunity sufficient to protect unvaccinated people. All of us will be infected eventually, it's basically inevitable. Fortunately the vaccines are very effective at preventing deaths.

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-made-herd-immu...

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by ceejayoz on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:18AM (#28277125)
This presumes we can't tweak boosters to better target Delta, which seems like a silly assumption.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by brown9-2 on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:54AM (#28275740)
> But if vaccinated people are also spreading it

It is not a binary 0 or 1 as far as if vaccinated people will spread the infection if they are infected. The vaccine lowers the chances, so the more people we can get vaccinated, the lower the chances can get.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by Expirat on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:35AM (#28275458)
> It's not about children getting it and being ill, it's about children getting it and spreading it.

Vaccinated people can still get ill and spread it so why do you keep pushing vaccines to children who have no risk whatsoever if the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated and are safe??

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by rajamaka on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:33AM (#28275438)
Older people can get vaccinated
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by colordrops on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:33AM (#28275430)
Did you already forget the comment that started this thread? This is assuming the rest of the population is vaccinated.