> The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Sacramento asks a judge to order a jury trial for the arresting deputies

This is the heart of the issue.

Most police don't believe there is any accountability, even if they are good police who always do the right thing.

Most, of course, will always try to do the right thing, but those who don't try are rarely weeded out of the system. This, of course, is enabled by the otherwise good people who are part of the criminal justice system: the police, prosecutors, and even, someitmes, judges who allow criminal behavior to go unpunished, and regularly object to attempts at accountaility.

This explains the impulse to tear it all down, in my opinion. The overwhelming support for the very few criminals who abuse their power puts the entire system into question.

This is the systemic racism that organizations are accused of.

It doesn't (to me) mean that "everybody in the organization is racist and the whole thing should be disbanded/defunded" though.

I take it as simply being that when something like this happens, it's easier for those not involved, good people, to turn a blind eye than stand up for what they know is right.

Not a criticism of the individuals, I know I'd find it hard to stand up and risk being ostracized - it's a criticism of the system where doing the right thing isn't the easy thing.

There are good cops - and they are rooted out [1] [2]. "Doing the right thing" is a fireable offense, apparently.

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/what-polic...

[2] https://mfranciswrites.medium.com/5-good-cops-that-got-fired...

Some good links to some infuriating stories.

Maybe what both sides could unite around is an organization that will back up these officers?

~ "The Good Apple Officer Organization"

At the most basic level, could cover the pensions of whistle-blowers - and I'd guess for every story we hear now, would get a dozen more out there.

I genuninely believe most people who join law enforcement want to make the world a better place. Question is simply how can we help them do this?

"Porter was jailed overnight on suspicion of resisting arrest, but never charged." How is this legal? You get pulled over and held for no reason other than asking why you were pulled over?

Combine that with the fact that the officer thinks it okay to knock a woman unconscious for no reason, blatantly lie about it and face essentially no repercussions besides maybe going to a new department a town over. How can policing in America actually get improved during our generation?

search youtube for 'first amendment audit'...cops pull these sort of shenanigans fairly frequently, but with all sorts of citizens of all races and genders...the first amendment auditors wear cameras and record such shenanigans

We should never become jaded to these horrifying stories. Cops assaulting and injuring a woman for no reason at all, and then lying about it. This would not have happened if she were white, but apparently Solano County sheriffs have declared open season on Black people.

None of your arguments justify police brutality against black people.

Or these two people did. It’s troubling for sure, but saying Solano County sheriffs have declared open season is a giant leap.

These two and the third one who signed the report. And everyone who’s already not taking actions (for eg their superiors). If law enforcement’a job is not uphold the law then what is it? Why haven’t they already arrested the two and filed a complaint themselves (the County Sheriffs) what’s stopping them?

Too lazy to search, but within the last year I remember a series of podcasts exploring systemic racism from a vaguely reputable source (sorry) that at one point cited a (supreme?) court case where it was established that law enforcement actually has no obligation to "serve and protect", and all other expectations that don't follow from that.

If you think it's just these two people (especially when a superior officer signed off on it), you have a lot to learn about the way policing works in this country.

Does it matter that she is a software engineer? The original article only made a passing comment of her profession. This behavior abhorrent and clearly racially motivated. Full stop!

I think the original "Black woman who isn't a crack whore" possibly got a tweak by the editor.

why is this flagged?

It's political, or at least bordering on it, and therefore not a good candidate for an HN article.

Thanks. I found the FAQ [1] which suggest that items which don't match the guidelines [2], which include political content, can be flagged.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I've noticed a rash of flagging within the last N months.

Fuck the police

edit: reading this made me sick

Police is only doing their jobs by arresting criminals. Sure, these people always says they are innocent angels... actually, prisons are full of innocence angels. I stand with the Police.

“These people”