Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by titoasty on Saturday August 21, 2021 @09:49AM
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YMMV. Having worked with AprilTags and Aruco markers, I can already see the limitations in the short video. Resilience is very good, very very, but not under strong movements and particularly any kind of motion blur (I'm looking at you, cheap webcams) (the video has quite slow movements). A decent size for the markers is also a huge requirement (around 10cm per meter from the camera. With a 4k camera I reached 2cm per meter with Aruco markers). Pose estimation is still a tricky problem and solving it is challenging at best. All of this is impressive in a very controlled environment, but can be disappointing in real world environments (and non trained users). I'm very curious how they'll solve all of these!
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by jcfrei on Friday August 20, 2021 @08:29PM
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Very cool. Has somebody already attempted to make clothing with a visual fiducial system like AprilTag? Like gloves, socks, t-shirts, etc? Could be a really comfortable way to enable full body tracking without a complicated setup.
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by numpad0 on Saturday August 21, 2021 @07:30AM
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OptiTrack is marker based. Zozosuit could have been a “poor man’s” alternative but not enough numbers of hackers got it apparently. Nevertheless there’s always Kinect, and ML-based markerless approaches looks interesting as well, wonder which ones are popular these days.
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by VoidWhisperer on Saturday August 21, 2021 @05:18AM
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This looks like it works great for 180 degree tracking (ie if you are facing the camera.) Is there any way to make it so you could turn all the way around and still have it work, ie by adding more apriltag markers on the opposite side from the front ones?
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by barcoder on Saturday August 21, 2021 @07:53AM
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It kind of looks like in the video that the person has a marker on the side as well as front, so it could potentially work. Maybe the side marker could be set to rotate the character
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by hytdstd on Saturday August 21, 2021 @03:16AM
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* less robust high speed tracking (2d barcode features often get destroyed by motion blur from consumer grade cameras)
* slower tracking in general (specialty hardware such as depth cameras often are higher spec: intel realsense can do 90fps, some mocap systems can do 1000hz)
* worse accuracy and precision in general (though it's related to the tag size, bigger tags are more precise/accurate)
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by jimmySixDOF on Friday August 20, 2021 @10:22PM
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The Luxonis OpenCV AI Kit (OAK) project team is also actively implementing AprilTags [1] and my understanding is it will handle Tag Detection and Pose Estimation on the camera.
Re:Full-body tracking in VR using AprilTag markers
by LegitShady on Friday August 20, 2021 @09:53PM
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this is sort of going backwards and then forwards in steamvr. In "the labs" you can explore (sort of) the secret valve developer room and its full of similar markers to let the device track 3d space.
This puts the markers on the person instead of the room, but maybe valve played with that too - I don't know.
Cool stuff - I might mess with this next month if I can find some time.
ps: oh and you need totally flat markers.
And I was surprised it hadn't been on HN before, as far as I could see.
* slower tracking in general (specialty hardware such as depth cameras often are higher spec: intel realsense can do 90fps, some mocap systems can do 1000hz)
* worse accuracy and precision in general (though it's related to the tag size, bigger tags are more precise/accurate)
[1] https://github.com/luxonis/depthai-python/pull/298
This puts the markers on the person instead of the room, but maybe valve played with that too - I don't know.
Cool stuff - I might mess with this next month if I can find some time.