Psychologically, you'll feel a difference in what you accept between the two, I think

Don't want your photo's scanned, don't sync them to icloud. Seriously! Please include the actual system when discussing this system, not your bogeyman system.

"To help address this, new technology in iOS and iPadOS* will allow Apple to detect known CSAM images stored in iCloud Photos."

To increase privacy - they perform the scan on device prior to upload.

"for now"

Which is the part most people have a problem with -- they say that they are only scanning iCloud uploads now, but it's simple extension of the scanner to scan all files.

I don't care if Apple scans my iCloud uploads on iCloud servers, I don't want them scanning photos on my device.

I don't have a problem if it scans everything, but its not. Let's stick to what is doing. Android could do this as well, so talking about what companies like google could do is not so interesting - they could do almost anything.

I'm not sure there's a real difference unless you want to watch your settings all the time. In google land they tend to reset ... and really that happens a lot of places.

I think for most people if you use google, you're in their cloud.

No ... They scan everything that I have released to apple photos that exists on my device.

Same scan - different place.

I get to select the issue and it was in response to the previous claim that 'they' are scanning everything that exists on the device right now.

A year ago this was a possible 'future development'. 10 years from now I could be living on Mars. This is all hypothetical.

Exactly. However, people don't seem to have an issue when hypothesizing that CSAM detection is good actually, because Apple might implement E2EE, despite no evidence of such intentions.

For some reason, though, people take issue when others hypothesize that CSAM detection is bad actually, because Apple might expand it further and violate users' privacy even more. And there's actually precedent for this hypothesis, given Apple's actions here and their own words[1]:

> This program is ambitious, and protecting children is an important responsibility. These efforts will evolve and expand over time.

[1] https://www.apple.com/child-safety/

Must have been absloutely nuts round here back in 2011 when they announced the particular slippery slope that is iCloud backup.

Now we have clientside scanning, and actually being led by the [note the scare quotes] “pro-privacy” two ton gorilla. It’s a whole different ballgame.

But here appears to be beyond the pale such that people are saying "this far, no farther!"