Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims of ‘hash collisions’

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by whoknowswhat11 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:07PM (#28227166)

As has been repeated over and over, apple only scans photos that are part if icloud photos (ie, uploaded).

Don't want your photo's scanned, don't sync them to icloud. Seriously! Please include the actual system when discussing this system, not your bogeyman system.

"To help address this, new technology in iOS and iPadOS* will allow Apple to detect known CSAM images stored in iCloud Photos."

To increase privacy - they perform the scan on device prior to upload.

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by Johnny555 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:23PM (#28227355)

As has been repeated over and over, apple only scans photos that are part if icloud photos (ie, uploaded).

"for now"

Which is the part most people have a problem with -- they say that they are only scanning iCloud uploads now, but it's simple extension of the scanner to scan all files.

I don't care if Apple scans my iCloud uploads on iCloud servers, I don't want them scanning photos on my device.

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by smnrchrds on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:37PM (#28227502)

I will believe them if they put their money where their mouth is: as a clause to iOS user agreement saying that if they ever use they ever use this functionality for anything other than CSAM or on anything other than iCloud photos, ever person who was subjected to this scan will be paid 100 million dollars by Apple. I will believe them if they put this clause in, and I know when they have changed their plans when they remove the clause. No more pinky swears, let's add some stakes for breaking the promise.

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by kcb on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:44PM (#28227568)

Until one day a box pops up. It says "We've updated our terms. See this 10,000 line document here. Please accept to continue using your device." Then your clause is gone.

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by smnrchrds on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:19PM (#28227868)

I'm fine with that. Apple is a big company and changing its TOS will be instantly reported on. It will act as a canary of sorts to know when they turn evil and we know to stop using their products.

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by TimTheTinker on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:16PM (#28229956)

Isn't the design of this system enough of a canary?

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by Johnny555 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:38PM (#28227512)

I'd be satisfied with a money back guarantee -- if they change the policy then I can return the phone for a full refund.

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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by whoknowswhat11 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:25PM (#28230011)

People are pretending it scans everything on your device. This conversation is already bad enough without adding additional confusion over what this does.

I don't have a problem if it scans everything, but its not. Let's stick to what is doing. Android could do this as well, so talking about what companies like google could do is not so interesting - they could do almost anything.

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