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Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by igorgue on Friday July 29, 2011 @10:21AM (#2821884)
As a VIM user I find that amusing, people that use editors other than Emacs and VIM are very disloyal to their editors, I've been using VIM for years, and I'm not switching to another one...

Just out of the curiosity, what editor do you use on Windows?

PRO Tip: Pick an open source editor, so it's always updated (ejem TextMate).

Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by alexis-d on Friday July 29, 2011 @10:40AM (#2821994)
Maybe that's because Vim and Emacs have a steep learning curve so it's hard to switch to another editor.

Or it may just be because they do all what we can want from an editor (and even more).

Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by aristidb on Friday July 29, 2011 @11:14AM (#2822204)
The learning curve of Vim and Emacs making it hard to swith TO another editor? Sorry, but that makes no sense. :-) Maybe Vim and Emacs do have qualities that other editors don't match?
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by alexis-d on Friday July 29, 2011 @11:44AM (#2822388)
That's not what I meant. What I wanted to say is you put so much effort to master Vim/Emacs (as you want) so if you say "oh great a new editor i'll use it" all the efforts spent in learning Vim/Emacs are "lost".

I hope you get my point!

(and I agree that they have qualities that other editors don't match)

Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by neutronicus on Friday July 29, 2011 @12:00PM (#2822472)
My fingers do emacs-y things on their own. It's a huge problem for me when I have to do something on windows. Especially C-a. That one's the worst.
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by micampe on Friday July 29, 2011 @08:29PM (#2824430)
I think that is also due to a form of lock-in.

Emacs and Vim are so different from anything else, and you invest so much time customizing and tailoring them to your use that in the end they are actually your own editor, not Emacs or Vim anymore.

Other editors instead are usually based on the same general idea and interaction, so switching and trying different ones is easier.

Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by Androsynth on Friday July 29, 2011 @08:11PM (#2824382)
I used to be a sublime user and I switched over to vim. Now I'm in a weird position where I use Sublime for the ability to instantly find anything and go anywhere in my project and I use vim just for editing.

On a side note, Sublime has excellent project navigation functionality.

Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by mlambir on Friday July 29, 2011 @11:54PM (#2824814)
maybe this plugin will be helpful for you: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3025 it emulates the "command-t" functionality in textmate, which is pretty similar to sublime's project navigation.
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by swah on Friday July 29, 2011 @10:25AM (#2821901)
What about people that use both Emacs and Vim?
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by ma2rten on Friday July 29, 2011 @10:53AM (#2822085)
I don't think there are many people who are seriously using both vim and emacs equally. Fully mastering either of them costs years...
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by aristidb on Friday July 29, 2011 @11:16AM (#2822218)
They may not be mastered equally. For example, I find myself using vim to edit files on servers, because setting up emacs to my taste is always a bit of a pain. (I do know about TRAMP.)
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by swah on Friday July 29, 2011 @01:53PM (#2822980)
I feel very comfortable in both of them. If Vim had ido, vc and slime, it would be the clear winner (because of RSI). I don't write Vimscript thought.
Re:Sublime Text 2 Build 2091 by eeperson on Friday July 29, 2011 @07:49PM (#2824322)
You can always go the other way get Vim commands in Emacs with Vimpulse.