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Re:Mailable Live Animals by jetrink on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:18PM (#28211549)
I love lists like this. I remember waiting for a Greyhound bus and reading the list of prohibited items and imagining the stories behind each one. It ran on for pages. Human heads were not allowed, even if frozen. Martial arts weapons like swords, nunchucks and throwing stars got a section all their own, separate from guns and knives. Each type of bodily fluid was listed separately, lest someone assume that their jar of urine didn't count.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by Turing_Machine on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:56PM (#28212072)
There was an incident maybe 30 years ago where a medical school employee went into New York (I think it was) to pick up a batch of human heads to be used for teaching purposes. He left the box in his car while taking care of another errand, and it was stolen.

The box was found sitting on the sidewalk a few blocks away, with the heads still in it.

One can only imagine what went through the thief's mind when he opened his "prize".

Re:Mailable Live Animals by np- on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:39PM (#28212617)
Regardless of the thief, it does seem a little concerning that the chain of custody for actual human heads involves being left unattended in a random employee's car.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by sneak on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:52PM (#28212762)
The world is not nearly as tightly controlled as one might think. Lots of stuff is just some normal person's job to not lose track of.

Body parts are only super custody tracked when they are still viable lifesaving tools (ie organ transplant). Besides that they aren't a huge deal.

Re:Mailable Live Animals by dharmab on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @02:01PM (#28212895)
Re:Mailable Live Animals by dexterdog on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @04:52PM (#28214715)
Once they've been relegated to the heap of experimentation they really don't need to be controlled that much. Oddly I would feel in some way violated if a loved one of mine had died and his/her head were in that box, but if it happened to my own head I would pay it no mind.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by dharmab on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @06:40PM (#28215615)
There was a news splash several years ago about a body donation intended for Alzheimer's research which was used for military explosives testing: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-body...
Re:Mailable Live Animals by dexterdog on Thursday August 19, 2021 @10:38AM (#28234372)
Now that is something I would sign on for
Re:Mailable Live Animals by s0rce on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @04:52PM (#28214716)
A lab I worked in while I was in college had a freezer with a bunch of human heads in it. pretty creepy.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by kortilla on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @04:37PM (#28214561)
Why? They aren’t going to escape.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by LadyCailin on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @04:51PM (#28214699)
Well, they clearly did that one time.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by raxxorrax on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @03:35AM (#28218572)
I don't know, I wouldn't expect heads to be a popular target of thievery.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by kjkjadksj on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:29PM (#28211708)
This was probably the gruesome incident that got heads banned:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean

Re:Mailable Live Animals by andai on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:49PM (#28211982)
> On February 10, 2017, the Manitoba Criminal Code Review Board ordered Li be discharged. Li was granted an absolute discharge. There will be no legal obligations or restrictions pertaining to Li's independent living.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by _understood_ on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:59PM (#28212110)
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Re:Mailable Live Animals by pwner39 on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:57PM (#28212090)
I understand that mens rea should generally be present in crimes in order for convictions but eight years for doing what he did is itself insane.

Reading up on his background, I wonder if he just snapped and killed the guy out of anger for whatever reason and then started cannibalizing the corpse so that he could play the mental illness card at court.

Re:Mailable Live Animals by scrps on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:53PM (#28212778)
If someone has an epileptic seizure or a diabetic goes into hypoglycemic shock whilst driving and gets into a head on collision and kills someone should they go to prison? They call it mental illness for a reason.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by catillac on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @02:15PM (#28213059)
I’ve known people with epilepsy who were banned from driving due to this possibly. If they had driven and gotten a seizure and killed someone, they would have been driving with a reckless disregard for the safety of others, which is enough of a mens rea to form intention for some level of murder conviction.

It is likely this is largely true, even if not formally banned from driving, so the answer is probably yes to your hypothetical they should go to prison, or pulling the normative phrase out, likely would go to prison (subject to many mitigating factors).

Re:Mailable Live Animals by scrps on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @03:12PM (#28213668)
Perhaps epilepsy was a bad choice. How about for cardiac arrest, stroke, or any number of undiagnosed medical conditions that could cause someone to create dangerous/fatal conditions outside of their control?
Re:Mailable Live Animals by dahfizz on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @02:33PM (#28213245)
> They call it mental illness for a reason.

Even if we accept your premise that having a mental illness precludes one from taking responsibility for their actions, you still have to deal with the fact that they are a serious danger to society. One of the uses of prison is to take people who would otherwise murder and eat people and remove them from society, so that they can't do that.

Re:Mailable Live Animals by scrps on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @03:15PM (#28213697)
Re:Mailable Live Animals by dahfizz on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @03:33PM (#28213888)
I am making a moral argument, not a legal one.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by andai on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @07:46AM (#28219908)
I don't think he should be in jail, but he probably shouldn't be riding any more buses either.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by np- on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:43PM (#28212652)
Even if that's true, that's still well beyond a reasonable bound of sanity. Agreed that 8 years seems a bit light though, considering the notoriety of the crime.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by twic on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:23PM (#28212408)
Unlikely, as in this case, at the time of boarding, the head was still attached to Mr McLean.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by pwner39 on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @12:52PM (#28212023)
Eight years at a mental hospital for murdering and cannibalizing a sleeping man, seems fair.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by giorgioz on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:00PM (#28212122)
I wish I had not opened that link and read it.
Re:Mailable Live Animals by the_gipsy on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @01:02PM (#28212163)
Why would that result in a prohibition of transporting human heads? Are you OK?