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Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by mikece on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:10AM (#28155823)
How can Twitter seriously make the statement that they are not taking sides in a political issue by banning one party in a country? By any objective measure this is suppressing political speech and runs contrary to Twitter's stated goal of being on online Town Square, a place for discourse and the exchange of ideas. It would be one thing if an account was closed for obviously criminal reasons but I doubt that's the case here. That said, I'm not versed on Indian politics so if someone who knows more can assert that clearly criminal things were happening on this account I'll take back what I've said above.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by gpm on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:42AM (#28156219)
Being apolitical doesn't mean "not touching politicians", it means "applying rules consistently regardless of politics and not designing rules for political gain".

To not touch politicians would be to take the stand that some people are important politicians and some are not, that would be an inherently political distinction. Thus that route is not apolitical (short of just not moderating at all, that is possible but does not create a platform that people want to use).

I don't know anything about indian politics, or this case apart from what is said in the article. I don't know if this account was banned for apolitical reasons. But to take the position that banning a political party is fundamentally taking sides in a political issue is wrong.

Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by sifar on Thursday August 12, 2021 @01:19PM (#28158943)
Both, the ruling party and twitter are locked in a pyrrhic struggle. One cannot let go of the market the other the platform.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by jmeister on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:20AM (#28155938)
What if the party’s account violated Twitter’s ToS?
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by mountainb on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:50AM (#28156329)
International law supersedes Twitter's ToS and Twitter's actions are entangling the United States into international political conflicts that we don't need to be dumped into.

The core question as far as international law is concerned is whether or not Twitter's actions in these instances are those of a state or if it is a private actor. Twitter would say it's a private actor, but considering the close historical coordination between Twitter, the State Department, and the intelligence octopus, one would have to be somewhere between clueless, brain damaged, and a stooge to argue that Twitter is wholly a private actor and completely uncontaminated from American state pressure.

I'm not an Indian, not ethnically Indian, don't care about India, but India should accordingly treat Twitter as if it is an American state actor and seek restitution and remediation under the exact same reasoning that the United States uses to blame the Russian state for election interference among other miscellaneous "cyber" things.

We do use this exact reasoning against the Russians with even less evidence. Our economic policy of attempting to digitally dominate and interfere with foreign powers is also screwing up our diplomacy (not that American diplomacy can really get any more twisted, but still, I'm speaking in terms of the principle here). India's at an inflection point now in its own foreign policy, and it is not helpful to the American interest to have quasi-private frothing algorithmic dogs causing needless diplomatic incidents continuously for no discernable benefit to anyone but Twitter's feckless shareholders.

Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by shadowgovt on Thursday August 12, 2021 @12:56PM (#28158704)
The Indian government was the entity that first asked Twitter to take action on this issue.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by anoonmoose on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:56AM (#28156390)
I am neither clueless, brain damaged, or a stooge, and I think Twitter is a wholly private actor. My opinion on this topic is backed by a raft of laws and legal precedent; yours is not.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by mountainb on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:26AM (#28156763)
Right, just like the British East India Company was a "private actor." It's just a glove for the hand of the state.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by satellite2 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:25AM (#28155983)
Why not simply remove the faulty tweet?
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by mattigames on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:41AM (#28156208)
Because that doesn't leave any lasting warning, as the author can just post the same tweet dozens of times again.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by thaumasiotes on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:27AM (#28156015)
Twitter doesn't do that. They don't delete your tweets. They may prevent anyone else, including your followers, from viewing your tweets. They may prevent you from logging in until you delete your evil tweets yourself. But they won't delete your tweets. That would be Going Too Far.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by MikeUt on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:36AM (#28156143)
And if their ToS are themselves political?
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by capableweb on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:39AM (#28156176)
And since humans are inherently political, we should just delete the entirety of humanity.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by yt9yfyugg on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:38AM (#28156165)
Then Twitter's ToS was designed in a manner that promotes one political party above the other. It's not complicated.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by ceejayoz on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:44AM (#28156248)
That's silly.

If I start the "Election Fraud Party", I don't get to complain that enforcing free and fair elections is an attack on me.

Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by yt9yfyugg on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:44AM (#28156258)
Do you feel your logical extreme is a good rebuttal here?
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by ceejayoz on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:46AM (#28156278)
The article indicates the party account got locked for doxxing a nine year old rape victim. If there's an extreme here, it's not my position.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by capableweb on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:40AM (#28156205)
Hm, maybe. But maybe, some parties are worse than others. I can think of 10s of political parties that should not have been allowed to participate in the democratic process as they (before elections) shown to condone political violence.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by yt9yfyugg on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:42AM (#28156221)
So? Condoning violence is irrelevant to if a party represents the electorate.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by refactor_master on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:57AM (#28156413)
They’d have to make it legal to condone violence first then.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by mikece on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:32AM (#28156079)
Is it reasonable for a public company to have terms of service which allow for the abridgement of political speech absent the commission of a crime? Twitter is affecting the internal politics of a nation by deciding who can and cannot use their platform for political purposes.

And no: I would *not* defend the use of Twitter by the Nazi party if this were the 1930s. In this scenario I would expect Twitter to make an explanation that goes beyond the "violates our terms of service" or some amorphous "community guidelines" nonsense. Twitter is affecting political activity in a foreign nation; I would support India in either banning Twitter from their country or taking civil or criminal actions for silencing political discourse (whatever the local laws permit).

Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by anoonmoose on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:36AM (#28156134)
Yes, I think it is reasonable. You do too, it's just that you think it's ok in some circumstances and not others.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by mikece on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:40AM (#28156186)
It is unreasonable if Twitter doesn't make a statement as to why. If an intelligence agency of a foreign government had done this it would be an act of war. I don't see why Twitter should be seen as any less nefarious merely because it's a company with a ToS when they don't actually explain WHY certain decisions are made and cowardly point to a ToS as though that is an omnibus explanation for all of their actions.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by anoonmoose on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:42AM (#28156222)
If an intelligence agency or foreign government did it...they'd be hacking Twitter to do it, and we'd be having a different conversation. Twitter should be free to operate their business, within the bounds of the law, as they see fit. If you think they are being unreasonable, sell your stock, delete your account, petition your congress critter.
Re:Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party by ceejayoz on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:45AM (#28156268)
> It is unreasonable if Twitter doesn't make a statement as to why.

The article cites such statements.