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Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by sittingplant on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:37PM (#28132519)
Miners have always been free to implement whatever logic they like, though. If you send out a mass communication saying "Address 0x12345 belongs to a very mean guy" and every miner out there denies service to that address, the decentralization properties of your system haven't been violated anywhere.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by wmf on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:51PM (#28132671)
Decentralization usually includes the assumption that parties are acting independently and are not all colluding.

[Edit: Following the incentives of the protocol is not collusion. In a crypto context I would define collusion as something like multiple parties working together against their own incentives (e.g. rejecting valid, fee-paying transactions).]

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by cle on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:13PM (#28132940)
If nodes in a network are fully independent and not cooperating, then you don't have a network, you have a bunch of disconnected nodes.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by codehalo on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:45PM (#28134244)
Is cooperating the same as colluding?
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by cle on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:40PM (#28135000)
In the sense the parent used it, yes.

If a majority of banks and businesses agree to block transactions of a known terrorist, is it collusion or cooperation? I don't see a meaningful distinction at that point, other than the negative connotation of "collusion" poisoning the well. Which is why I referred to "cooperation" instead.

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by ineedasername on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @10:17PM (#28137180)
The later has a negative connotation of illegal (or at least secret) cooperation. So it's a form of cooperation.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by munificent on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:50PM (#28133395)
Which is exactly the fundamental flaw in any argument that "decentralization" will somehow solve problems.

Humans are social creatures and collusion is the natural order. Humans will cooperate unless doing so is clearly to their detriment.

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by cle on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:53PM (#28135145)
Decentralization doesn't mean isolation and that nobody is cooperating. It's a centrality measure. More decentralized networks have less nodes that hold outsized importance in the network.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by ibero on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:35PM (#28133178)
that’s not a solid assumption.

if they can pursue their own interests freely and if those interests they pursue align with the majority or the totality it does not negate their decentralized nature.

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by ErikVandeWater on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:02PM (#28132816)
But I imagine the reason exchanges are refusing these transactions is at least half because they would be receiving stolen property. I'm not sure but I don't imagine "I'm receiving property stolen from another country" will stand up as a defense in any court.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by phatfish on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @05:01AM (#28139703)
Does law enforcement bother it's self with internet play money? Until it touches an asset or currency governments care about I assumed they just let the kids have their fun.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by ErikVandeWater on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:40AM (#28156894)
It's not clear. But the lawyers at these exchanges aren't going to take that risk and will strongly advise against receiving stolen property.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by DSingularity on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @09:07AM (#28141532)
It was marketed as censorship resistant and code is law and blah blah blah.