News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by wmf on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:51PM (#28132671)
Decentralization usually includes the assumption that parties are acting independently and are not all colluding.

[Edit: Following the incentives of the protocol is not collusion. In a crypto context I would define collusion as something like multiple parties working together against their own incentives (e.g. rejecting valid, fee-paying transactions).]

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by cle on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:13PM (#28132940)
If nodes in a network are fully independent and not cooperating, then you don't have a network, you have a bunch of disconnected nodes.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by codehalo on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:45PM (#28134244)
Is cooperating the same as colluding?
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by cle on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:40PM (#28135000)
In the sense the parent used it, yes.

If a majority of banks and businesses agree to block transactions of a known terrorist, is it collusion or cooperation? I don't see a meaningful distinction at that point, other than the negative connotation of "collusion" poisoning the well. Which is why I referred to "cooperation" instead.

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by ineedasername on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @10:17PM (#28137180)
The later has a negative connotation of illegal (or at least secret) cooperation. So it's a form of cooperation.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by munificent on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:50PM (#28133395)
Which is exactly the fundamental flaw in any argument that "decentralization" will somehow solve problems.

Humans are social creatures and collusion is the natural order. Humans will cooperate unless doing so is clearly to their detriment.

Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by cle on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:53PM (#28135145)
Decentralization doesn't mean isolation and that nobody is cooperating. It's a centrality measure. More decentralized networks have less nodes that hold outsized importance in the network.
Re:$600M taken in largest DeFi hack to date by ibero on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:35PM (#28133178)
that’s not a solid assumption.

if they can pursue their own interests freely and if those interests they pursue align with the majority or the totality it does not negate their decentralized nature.