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Re:Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since... by mooreds on Sunday August 01, 2021 @07:09PM (#28031107)
> The issue is that companies want to be cheap by letting other companies do the training and then taking them.

It's not cheap if they are willing to pay for it. That's why senior salaries keep going up. It's a tradeoff--they are willing to pay more for the privilege of not losing the time.

Re:Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since... by giantg2 on Sunday August 01, 2021 @08:49PM (#28031752)
I don't really see it that way. Training people is more expensive than hiring a senior dev for the simple fact that you have to use a senior dev's time to train the new person anyways.
Re:Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since... by mooreds on Sunday August 01, 2021 @09:57PM (#28032130)
> Training people is more expensive than hiring a senior dev for the simple fact that you have to use a senior dev's time to train the new person anyways.

For the first N months, sure, but then, you have a senior and a trained junior, who is hopefully on their way to being a mid. So it's less of an expense and more of an investment in my eyes.

But like any upfront investment, there is a time when the costs outweigh the benefits, especially in the early days.

Re:Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since... by wyclif on Sunday August 01, 2021 @10:17PM (#28032222)
The "investment" part of the equation is where I see that model breaking down and failing. There's a lot of poaching and job-hopping, especially motivated by total comp. You could say it's always been that way, but in terms of the senior/mid/junior spread it seems like in our industry, employers would rather hire another senior than hire a junior who needs investment.
Re:Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since... by giantg2 on Sunday August 01, 2021 @11:16PM (#28032533)
"So it's less of an expense and more of an investment in my eyes."

Too bad companies don't see it that way.

Re:Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since... by mooreds on Monday August 02, 2021 @08:40AM (#28035765)
Well, I've been part of companies that have seen it that way, so they're out there!

But I agree, too few companies have that perspective.