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Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by Jenk on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:44AM (#27995791)
The UK gives this level of care to many people routinely.
Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by simonh on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:59AM (#27995956)
It also does so to anyone who needs it regardless of ability to pay, and at overall half the cost of health care per person in the population compared to the US. You can also still pay for enhanced private health care if you want.
Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by iammisc on Thursday July 29, 2021 @10:31AM (#27997002)
And yet, while many american insurers cover expensive gene therapies, European autorhities simply pretend the drugs are unsafe and refuse to cover them.

This sort of thing goes both ways

Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by Jenk on Thursday July 29, 2021 @10:36AM (#27997052)
Gene therapy is available on the NHS in the UK.

And the American system that is systematically bankrupting sick people for profit is a damn sight less perfect than the European authorities issues.

Yes, it goes both ways, but it goes much further one way over the other.

Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by iammisc on Thursday July 29, 2021 @12:50PM (#27998535)
> Yes, it goes both ways, but it goes much further one way over the other.

That's fair.

For gene therapy, I was referring to Zolgensma, which was delayed substantially in Europe and forced many to seek treatment in America. The delay was mainly due to cost savings, and the delay was clinically meaningful (since treatment is time sensitive).

Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by Jenk on Thursday July 29, 2021 @02:12PM (#27999583)
Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by iammisc on Thursday July 29, 2021 @05:14PM (#28001593)
I acknowledged this:

> delayed substantially in Europe

In the meantime, between when FDA approved v NHS, children became debilitated.

Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by Jenk on Friday July 30, 2021 @11:54AM (#28009323)
Fair dos. I haven't looked but is it possible there are some vice-versa examples?

Anyway. At least with the NHS you won't be expected to pay the millions per dose fees, via insurance or other means.

Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by hef19898 on Thursday July 29, 2021 @08:50AM (#27995861)
As do France and Germany.
Re:The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU by tiagod on Thursday July 29, 2021 @09:09AM (#27996068)
Portugal too. Our system is far from perfect (the best medication is sometimes prohibitively expensive for some people who really need it - chronic patients, pensioners) but there are many examples of our national health system investing heavily in particular individuals with little chance for survival.

A recent example is health system paying for Zolgensma, the most expensive medication in the world, leading to millions of expense per year[1][2] on this medication alone for a very small amount of babies.

[1] https://tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/saude/estado-gastou-4-1-milho...

[2] https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-eyes-arrival-of-world...