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Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by jtlisi on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:32PM (#27965065)
How much did they rake in from selling FSD vaporware?
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by DarmokJalad1701 on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:37PM (#27965119)
This vaporware recently drove 95%+ of a 2000 mile road trip for me. If only other vaporware was like this ...
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by orourkek on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:51PM (#27965291)
For that figure to be true you would have to ignore the requirement that you maintain awareness and control of the vehicle at all times. Autopilot !== FSD. Your car did not "drive itself," you were in control of the car 100% of the time — at least I hope so...
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by DarmokJalad1701 on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:59PM (#27966018)
In terms of workload, there is a huge difference between monitoring a system as opposed to hyper-focus and constant micro-adjustments for hours on end. The car stays in the lane as if on rails, passes other cars and takes exits. It also stops at traffic lights off highway and then continues as it turns green (if following a lead car).

I know what I paid for. And I am getting my money's worth given how much it has kept improving. The new FSD Beta looks even more promising. It's swiftly reaching the point where it is a question of liability and regulatory approval.

Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by xeromal on Monday July 26, 2021 @10:24PM (#27967937)
I see my FSD as watching a new driver about 18 years old. It's not amazing, it's a bit jerky, but watching an 18 year old drive vs having to drive is still a reduction in mental stress. It makes commutes bearable.
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by ajross on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @12:10AM (#27968516)
Only 1700 miles here (Portland<->Yellowstone). And straight up: this was the most relaxing and engaging road trip I've driven, anywhere, in any car, since I got my license in 1990. Standing up after a leg driven by the AP is just magic: no stiffness, no soreness. It's no different than if I'd been sitting in an office chair.

No, check that. My office chair frankly isn't as comfortable as the car.

Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by fomine3 on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @02:02AM (#27969132)
A bit off topic: every car sheets are heavily underrated compared to other chairs. Even cheaper car sheets are very comfortable for various use compared to cheaper chairs. I wish there are more recycling market for car sheets.
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by typon on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:02PM (#27965430)
I have a Lexus with lane-keeping assist and adaptive cruise, on a 9 hour trip on Canadian highways, I have had to disengage only when I am exiting the highway to make pit stop. Should Lexus market their "Full Self Driving" capability too?
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by rcMgD2BwE72F on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:31PM (#27965761)
Sure, as soon as your Lexus does that with just an OTA update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_mF0OLJPs
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by nixass on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:51PM (#27965285)
I too use my adaptive cruise control on German Autobahn and barely touch any commands while on it, I'd say it covers 95% of my needs too (it's not Tesla). And I call it as it is, adaptive cruise control, not the FSD
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by pedrocr on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:05PM (#27965461)
Adaptive cruise control doesn't steer the car. That plus "Lane Keep Assist" is mostly what Tesla "Autopilot" does. "FSD" does a bit more right now but not nearly as much as has been promised.
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by rcMgD2BwE72F on Monday July 26, 2021 @05:27PM (#27965721)
This is adaptive cruise control to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYW75nKPMoY
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by what_ever on Monday July 26, 2021 @07:07PM (#27966599)
This[1] part of the video really gives you the confidence to use AP for anything other than adaptive cruise control to you? Stopping a spot before is okay, but the abrupt stop, in the middle of two lanes, understanding the correct traffic light but then still creeping ahead...

1: https://youtu.be/sYW75nKPMoY?t=1190

Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by nixass on Tuesday July 27, 2021 @10:15AM (#27972726)
No, that is just horror
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by mperham on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:47PM (#27965247)
Both your POVs can be true.

It's not "full" if it's missing the 5%. In that sense, it's vaporware.

Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by kensai on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:46PM (#27965230)
Each and every modern car has a driving assistive system. It is vaporware since it is still no autonomous drive as touted for, but simply an assistance to the driver which requires his permanent attention.

I have been much more impressed with HUDs in common cars lately. Now that, although definitely not related to autonomous is a huge help to offset the cognitive load.

Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by octopaulus on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:35PM (#27965097)
Many $ from happy customers, many autonomous kilometers driven, have fun in your Ford focus
Re:Tesla 2Q 2021 Quarterly Result by bob33212 on Monday July 26, 2021 @04:40PM (#27965157)
I bought at 48k car in Q1 partially because of the autonomy potential. If FSD doesn't meet your expectations then don't buy it.