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Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by BuyMyBitcoins on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:19AM (#27917990)
>”if you just want to talk about knitting, you can avoid the people talking about politics.”

I don’t find this to be the case at all. The amount of politics tolerated in each subreddit is almost entirely dependent on the personalities of the mods who run it. And for whatever reason, most Reddit mods tend to be activist friendly or at least look the other way when it comes to obvious soapbox accounts breaking the rules.

In my experience most subreddits choose to flair political posts rather than prohibit them.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by Tainnor on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:15AM (#27918442)
I'm not super active on reddit, but I do frequent (mostly as a lurker) some subreddits from time to time, such as r/math, r/learnjapanese, r/history etc. I don't remember running into any sort of heated political argument in any of these subreddits. Of course, for other subreddits it might be different, but this is my experience.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by Tainnor on Friday July 23, 2021 @05:04AM (#27928682)
Well you're free to think whatever you want about BLM, but some sort of protest or statement was happening all over the world both in on- and offline communities, so you're not really singling out Reddit here, this is just an instance of a general trend.

Plus, my statement was about "heated political arguments", not a one-time statement from moderators which remains, to my understanding, rather rare. One thread about BLM doesn't deter me from visiting these subreddits.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by codesections on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:38AM (#27918672)
> I do frequent (mostly as a lurker) some subreddits from time to time, such as r/math, r/learnjapanese, r/history etc. I don't remember running into any sort of heated political argument in any of these subreddits.

I haven't spent any time there, so I'm genuinely curious: how does r/history avoid political arguments? Some people say that everything is inherently political, but history seems especially adjacent to politics

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by hiptobecubic on Thursday July 22, 2021 @10:30AM (#27919302)
All of the "successful" subs are either small enough to self-govern effectively because they feel like actual communities or they have hardcore, uncompromising moderator teams that enforce the rules swiftly.

askhistorians is the best example I can think of. askscience close behind.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by babyblueblanket on Thursday July 22, 2021 @10:01AM (#27918949)
r/history is heavily moderated, and primarily political positions need to be backed up with actual historical facts and discussion (and not out-of-context common talking points) or it'll be called for what it is and deleted.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by browningstreet on Thursday July 22, 2021 @01:58PM (#27922150)
I am mostly a lurker on Reddit, but I find it more satisfying that Twitter these days.

People I like in the world are unbearable on Twitter. I've unfollowed, muted and don't-show-me-their-retweets a good bunch of them.

If up and downvotes can work as feedback encouraging people to stop it with the "sigh" posts, or the rage-of-the-day posts, it could improve Twitter. If not, I'm not sure what could improve Twitter.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by paulddraper on Thursday July 22, 2021 @06:56PM (#27925337)
The huge default subreddits like r/pics are the worst offenders.

Ones that actually have a real interest group are more reasonable.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by BeFlatXIII on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:22AM (#27918006)
To be fair to the Reddit moderation staff, they’re also paid $0.00, so being strict about keeping the sub on-topic may not be high up on their list of daily priorities.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by CydeWeys on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:49AM (#27918232)
Other way around. They're not paid, so they want to keep the amount of unrelated contentious bullshit on their subreddit to a minimum. I've been a default sub mod and I know how much of a firehose that is. The simplest solution, and the smallest amount of work in total, is to nip unrelated discussions in the bud, delete entire comment trees, and lock the comment section entirely on a post that is (or is looking to) go south.

Users quickly learn that "we don't do that here", and stop.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by nkingsy on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:41AM (#27918711)
Yes, it works and it sort of scales.

Why, then, does the outrage porn rise to the top of the Reddit home page?

Because it measurably increases sales in a huge way right now.

To use a baseball analogy, how do you tell a juiced to the gills superstar that steroids are actually hurting their long-term outlook?

There’s no way to show Barry Bonds a future in which he’s shadow banned from the hall of fame and unmentionable even on his own teams broadcasts.

The change will come either with regulation or when a new, better system comes along and steals their users.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by CydeWeys on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:55AM (#27918871)
Outrage has always traveled faster than dry factual information. This isn't a new Internet phenomenon. You can see it in action all the way back in Greek and Roman history as well. It's an inmate feature of human psychology, not a new invention by reddit/Twitter.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by nkingsy on Thursday July 22, 2021 @10:22AM (#27919212)
Yes, and the fact that these platforms haven't taken steps to prevent abuse of the cheat code in our psychology means that they find the benefits of outrage to their bottom line outweigh the "unmeasurable" costs such as damage to society and the hollowing out of their platform.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by intended on Thursday July 22, 2021 @11:43AM (#27920185)
The front page of Reddit is not always outrage.

Besides, if our brains are designed to zoom in on certain signals, is it rational to expect technology to somehow prevent this?

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by dragonwriter on Thursday July 22, 2021 @12:09PM (#27920612)
> Besides, if our brains are designed to zoom in on certain signals, is it rational to expect technology to somehow prevent this?

Technology can mitigate it (by suppressing the signals, offsetting the effect) or exploit and exacerbate it. The former is often socially useful, but the latter is usually the path of least resistance to profits, and capitalism isn't a system whose incentives optimize for social utility.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by BuyMyBitcoins on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:28AM (#27918047)
Understandable, but I also suspect most of the moderators are at least somewhat sympathetic to the soapboxer’s political agendas.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by paulddraper on Thursday July 22, 2021 @06:55PM (#27925329)
That's true.

But the solution is to find a subreddit that works the way you want it to.

r/offmychest vs r/trueoffmychest

r/gaming vs r/truegaming

r/movies vs r/truefilm

r/unpopularopinion vs r/trueunpopularopinion