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Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by BeFlatXIII on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:22AM (#27918006)
To be fair to the Reddit moderation staff, they’re also paid $0.00, so being strict about keeping the sub on-topic may not be high up on their list of daily priorities.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by CydeWeys on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:49AM (#27918232)
Other way around. They're not paid, so they want to keep the amount of unrelated contentious bullshit on their subreddit to a minimum. I've been a default sub mod and I know how much of a firehose that is. The simplest solution, and the smallest amount of work in total, is to nip unrelated discussions in the bud, delete entire comment trees, and lock the comment section entirely on a post that is (or is looking to) go south.

Users quickly learn that "we don't do that here", and stop.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by nkingsy on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:41AM (#27918711)
Yes, it works and it sort of scales.

Why, then, does the outrage porn rise to the top of the Reddit home page?

Because it measurably increases sales in a huge way right now.

To use a baseball analogy, how do you tell a juiced to the gills superstar that steroids are actually hurting their long-term outlook?

There’s no way to show Barry Bonds a future in which he’s shadow banned from the hall of fame and unmentionable even on his own teams broadcasts.

The change will come either with regulation or when a new, better system comes along and steals their users.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by CydeWeys on Thursday July 22, 2021 @09:55AM (#27918871)
Outrage has always traveled faster than dry factual information. This isn't a new Internet phenomenon. You can see it in action all the way back in Greek and Roman history as well. It's an inmate feature of human psychology, not a new invention by reddit/Twitter.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by nkingsy on Thursday July 22, 2021 @10:22AM (#27919212)
Yes, and the fact that these platforms haven't taken steps to prevent abuse of the cheat code in our psychology means that they find the benefits of outrage to their bottom line outweigh the "unmeasurable" costs such as damage to society and the hollowing out of their platform.
Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by intended on Thursday July 22, 2021 @11:43AM (#27920185)
The front page of Reddit is not always outrage.

Besides, if our brains are designed to zoom in on certain signals, is it rational to expect technology to somehow prevent this?

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by dragonwriter on Thursday July 22, 2021 @12:09PM (#27920612)
> Besides, if our brains are designed to zoom in on certain signals, is it rational to expect technology to somehow prevent this?

Technology can mitigate it (by suppressing the signals, offsetting the effect) or exploit and exacerbate it. The former is often socially useful, but the latter is usually the path of least resistance to profits, and capitalism isn't a system whose incentives optimize for social utility.

Re:Twitter tests Reddit-style upvote and downvote buttons by BuyMyBitcoins on Thursday July 22, 2021 @08:28AM (#27918047)
Understandable, but I also suspect most of the moderators are at least somewhat sympathetic to the soapboxer’s political agendas.