Seems low for a senior in Berlin. I pay close to that amount in Romania.

Edit: NVM, netto - got it - it's allright.

that sounds about right. but if you're not married, you're more likely to get to ~3,800€ a month after taxes and social security contributions, which comes in at ~42% combined.

What is "netto"?

Netto is net. Basically after tax and social payment deductions

I was wondering if it were some kind of slang based on the supermarket...

(in my company we describe everything in terms of how many cheeseburgers from a specific restaurant we can buy with the money)

Its actually a real economic thing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index

Counting by Cola or Kebab works also pretty good.

Do not forget Ben and Jerry's

Is this in USD?

EUR. My current company pays around 70-90k for SSE, but we have levels for individual contributors above Senior - Staff and Principal. The salaries for them can go up to 140k .

This

>You're looking at 80k+ easily, so that's atleast around 4200 or 4300 netto

so 50k?

what's the point of giving salaries not in netto? it just makes it harder to compare

I'm not familiar with German job listings, but in the US, listing are "gross" (or "brutto" for German speakers).

Providing the gross amount could make it easier to compare internationally.

(Perhaps it would be even better to list net salaries everywhere, but taxes can vary by person, so that's not always possible.)

>but in the US, listing are "gross"

oh shit

so they don't pay 100k after tax to junior devs?

mamma mia, american dream is ded

A single American earning 100k gross would only pay about 13k in taxes. Less if you’re maxing 401(k). In America taxes are quite low until you’re in the top brackets.

This sounds way too low, and also varies a lot state-to-state. I just looked up 2020. Your Federal and FICA on 100k are about 23k. If you max out a 401(k) you can drop that to about 18.5k.

If you are in California, say, add about 5500 without 401(k), 4k with so total income tax is 29k, or 22k maxing out tax deferral.

So effective rate is about double what you quote, at least for single filing.

No this is incorrect. If you're in CA, you are looking at a tax burden of roughly 30% if you're making 100k.

Well yeah, California has by far the highest state income tax. And I’m guessing some of the bigger cities have city tax as well.

But in a state like TN or FL that don’t have that burden, it’s far less. Just for my main FTE in TN for 2020, I paid 12.5k on 150k (I also have 3 kids, so there is some tax credit there).

> Well yeah, California has by far the highest state income tax.

Its top marginal rate is 2.3% higher than Hawai’is, but also kicks in at almost 3× the taxable income (nearly $600K).

Its rate is lower than Oregon's from where Oregon's top rate kicks in to more than double that income. Its bottom nonzero rate is below the rates of the states that have flat income taxes.

> And I’m guessing some of the bigger cities have city tax as well.

Well, if by “some of the major cities” you mean “the single combined city and county”, sure. But only that one.

Fair enough but at $150k, Hawaii is actually at 8.25% (jumps up to 9% for 150,001-175k) while California is at 9.3% from $56k-286k. Oregon’s top bracket is 9.9%, but kicks in at $125k, and 9% from $8,401-124,999.

So effective net income from a $150k job, barring deductions, in California is $98k (Oregon is virtually identical give or take $100) vs Hawaii at $100k.

Taxes are low, but other living costs are not, and can go absurdly high (from a German point of few).

E.g. as a employee people often include taxes and other side costs including rent insurance and health insurance into one blob. On the other hand in the US health insurance is often more costly and covers less.

So just running into some non trivial but not to big health issues can easily make the average cost of living over time worse then in Germany.

But without question the "cost for what you get" value isn't the best in Germany, some EU countries have better ratios, e.g. similar cost but a better health system.

That's way off in almost all cases.

That low of a tax rate would only exist in US states with no state income tax.

Tax rates differ between individuals, based on other income, membership in a religion (specific to Germany), marital status, etc.

It’s the same reason retail prices I’m the US are often stated without sales taxes, a practice that is rare or even illegal in other jurisdictions: taxes sometimes differ even between cities, and it is impossible to state a single value for anything but a specific store.

Like others have said, your tax rate differs depending on situation you're in. Also, there are more things to take into account in Germany specifically. For example, many if not most companies (not sure if they still do, haven't been there in a while) will pay you "vacation money" and "x-mas money"/"13th salary" on top of this. I.e. in IIRC July you get an extra half month's salary and in November you get a "13th salary" i.e. an extra month's worth. These do count into all these tax implications (though some aren't taxed in the exact same way) but aren't included in the quoted salary numbers. They're listed as part of the contract usually.

Because it depends on your personal circumstances and is thus unknown by posters on an internet forum.