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Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by pryelluw on Saturday July 17, 2021 @05:52PM (#27869127)
Anyone knows why people decide to do this kind of time consuming work? Is the world getting hard enough that there is no alternative?

As someone who had to do similar work for years the answer is that there were no alternatives.

No one takes a shitty job on purpose.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by treis on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:46PM (#27869405)
That then raises the question of why they're paying time and a half to work their employees to death.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by PascLeRasc on Saturday July 17, 2021 @08:53PM (#27869979)
Exhausted employees have less time and energy to apply for better jobs, learn new skills, or organize. This reduces turnover. It also helps that some employees will develop health problems from overwork, and then they really won't be able to afford being without insurance.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by massysett on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:28PM (#27869633)
Overtime may be cheaper than hiring another worker because then there are healthcare benefits and pension for one more head.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by Bradlinc on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:36PM (#27869654)
Does that equate to 50% of the base hourly pay?
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by s1artibartfast on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:44PM (#27869695)
Probably more. At 20/hr, salary is 40k per year. At my workplace employee overhead is >100k on top of salary, so 20k overhead seems verry low
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by Tepix on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:15PM (#27869552)
Because they can get away with it and because of greed.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by treis on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:24PM (#27869599)
How would greed lead them to paying 40+ hours of time and a half OT instead of hiring another worker?
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by Tarucho on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:38PM (#27869670)
Companies tend to work (as we humans do) under the principle of least effort.

More employees means more HR work, more administrative work, more legal work, more work in general, and unless the benefits of hiring more people are great, they will just abuse the employees at hand.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by raydev on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:38PM (#27870421)
Because it's cheaper to have fewer employees.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by theshrike79 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:01PM (#27869178)
It's a self-feeding cycle.

First you need work two 10 hour shifts a day, 7 days a week to survive. Then you can't even study, because you can't afford it.

This is why proper unemployment and free schools (evil SOCIALISM) comes in to play. People don't need to work themselves to death just to survive, there are safety nets you can fall back on. (Yes there are holes in said nets, but it's better than the gaping black hole the US has).

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by phreack on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:00PM (#27869174)
I thought so as well, but then I started offering jobs to people I knew hated their jobs and also worked unpaid overtime constantly, with the smallest salaries. But for some reason, when offered a 6x salary freelancing, for less hours, with guidance, and the road paved as much as possible, everyone refuses.

Turns out there are people who take shitty jobs on purpose, out of a sense of... I don't know, fear, embarrassment, impostor syndrome, or a combination of them.

*This is not in the US.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by mertd on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:09PM (#27869220)
Maybe they think the offer is too good to be true. In some countries it is default to assume everyone is out to scam you until proven otherwise.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by ipaddr on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:04PM (#27869194)
They want something stable. Freelancing is not.
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by diordiderot on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:20PM (#27869286)
Kids, car, rent, healthcare = Need something stable
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by heavyset_go on Saturday July 17, 2021 @08:15PM (#27869815)
How many of these people had all of the necessary funds to fall back on should their foray into freelancing not go as planned?
Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by phreack on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:54PM (#27870475)
Replying here to sibling posts' concerns as well.

All of them in this case did, with no families or major expenses to support, and not a weird scam or pyramid scheme, just standard contract development work where in two or three contractually secured months they'd make what they currently do in over a year. The reason is basically geographical, working for clients abroad is just ridiculously more profitable (think Venezuela).

The risk in this case is extremely low, I wasn't looking for referrals either (I'd offered to give it to them if there were any), just genuinely wanted my friends to earn more and work less.

Re:I'm a Frito-Lay Factory Worker. I Work 12-Hour Days, 7 Da... by pryelluw on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:54PM (#27869741)
Freelancing is how I broke out of the shit job loop. But freelancing is not widely available and I consider myself extremely lucky and blessed to have been able to do it.