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Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by lordnacho on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:25AM (#27865608)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_high_school

In Denmark and some neighboring countries there's this concept of a school you can go to just to learn stuff later in life, as an ongoing thing. There's a whole bunch of themes (sports, history, etc), and often you can book yourself in for whatever amount of time makes sense for you.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by pacman2 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:05PM (#27866733)
ROTFL. This is called "Volkshochschule" in Germany. Hochschule can be translated to University. One guy from former Yugoslavia took an accounting course there, got a certificate and had this translated (to Serbian, Croatian or whatever). The translater did indeed translate Volkshochschule to Peoples University and the guy managed to secure a Professor position with it at a University. Of cause later this caused a scandal...
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by bekantan on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:47PM (#27869408)
Strange, they must have also "translated" the certificate to a PhD in that case :)
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by hda111 on Sunday July 18, 2021 @01:10PM (#27874578)
In Germany the PhD isn’t necessary to become a Professor. Not sure about the other country though.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by dragonwriter on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:30PM (#27866906)
> In Denmark and some neighboring countries there's this concept of a school you can go to just to learn stuff later in life, as an ongoing thing

We have those in the US; we don't have a general collective name for them, but there are both private for-profit ones with a variety of (mostly narrow) specialities, either standalone or as adjuncts to other related businesses (selling, e.g., products in the field that it teaches people to act in), plus community colleges, public libraries, public parks and rec departments, and museums tend to also have programs that serve this function, despite it not being their sole or primary function.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by techsupporter on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:54PM (#27867066)
My whole life, I've heard of those places as either "FunEd" or "The Learning Annex" and I didn't realize until well into adulthood that those were proper nouns, not the generic name for "classes you take as a grownup just for interest."
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by the_lonely_road on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:12AM (#27865882)
We have community colleges in America that serve the exact same function. My parents love taking the astronomy courses because they come with an observatory. They have also some some criminal justice classes and a lot of art classes like pottery. They are very old. You also don’t get a degree for taking these courses but they are much cheaper than the classes are for degree track students.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by lizknope on Saturday July 17, 2021 @03:42PM (#27868222)
I have a bachelors in computer engineering but I've taken drawing and painting classes at my local community college. It was a fun and we met once a week at night for 3 months. I think it was $120 for the entire 3 months but we did have to buy our own supplies.

I have a programmer friend that took welding and car repair classes at the community college. He just wanted to learn.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by User23 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:12AM (#27865885)
Many if not most universities in the USA have extension schools that serve this purpose.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by beebmam on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:25AM (#27865996)
I'd like to point out that Extension schools also allow minors to take full credit college courses. I basically had my math bachelor's degree complete by the time I was officially accepted to my university.

If you are a parent, let your children know about these extension college courses if they are interested!

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by amelius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:38AM (#27865678)
Do you get an academic degree?
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by potato_juice on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:42AM (#27865703)
Generally no
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by agumonkey on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:47AM (#27865735)
Is that recognized socially ? As in opening a business after passes these classes.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by lordnacho on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:54AM (#27865778)
You don't need a degree to open a business. And mostly it's for learning things for your own satisfaction, which I sense is what you mean?
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by agumonkey on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:04AM (#27866262)
Depends on the trade, you can't make electrical work without some form of recognition I believe. And beyond that I mostly asked regarding customers, you want something to back your claims and prices.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by irq11 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @12:24PM (#27866858)
Those are called “trade schools” in the US, and most community colleges have programs for trades. For example, a lot of community colleges have programs in auto repair and heating/cooling.

It gets more complicated in the US because of unions. In many places, you can’t become a plumber or electrician without an apprenticeship, which is controlled by the trade unions. Therefore, community colleges might offer classes on plumbing or electrical, but there’s no equivalent to a certification program, because it’s not possible to become a professional just by going to school.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by agumonkey on Saturday July 17, 2021 @01:26PM (#27867323)
Interesting I never linked the name 'trade school' with adult learning. I thought it was some parallel track for teenagers to jump into a field.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by amelius on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:25AM (#27865995)
Depends. If it's in a medical field, you might need a degree.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by chrisseaton on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:40AM (#27866104)
You don't need a degree to open a medical business. You need a degree to practice medicine.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by CaptainMarvel on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:52AM (#27866186)
This certainly depends on local rules. For example, in the UK I believe dental businesses can only be opened by a qualified dentist. I was surprised when I learnt this earlier this year.

This source [0] says “non-dentists cannot set up or buy dental practices as an individual or partnership but they are permitted to be shareholders of a limited company which owns the practice” and “the majority of directors of that limited company cannot be non-dentists”.

[0]: https://www.plutopartners.co.uk/post/who-can-own-a-dental-bu...

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by ghaff on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:01AM (#27866249)
I believe this is the case with law firms, and probably some other professional firms, in the US as well. AFAIK a law firm is a partnership of lawyers.

That said, this isn't what most people are talking about when they are talking about starting a business.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by henrikeh on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:56AM (#27865788)
My impression, knowing very few who has attended højskole, is that people do it for their own personal fulfillment and enjoyment.

Socially, I’d say that it is respected and regarded as a sign of dedication to ones interests.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by agumonkey on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:48AM (#27866601)
which is pretty cool, I think it's a vital need for humans to keep learning new stuff if you don't have enough stimulation
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by chrisseaton on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:19AM (#27865944)
> As in opening a business after passes these classes.

Where do you need a degree to open a business?

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by UK-Al05 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:24AM (#27865987)
Lots of professions and trades require a qualification or license to practice.

So getting these qualifications are required for reskilling.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by chrisseaton on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:40AM (#27866107)
Right so the employees providing the actual services may need qualifications. The person opening the business doesn't. I've never seen anywhere where opening a business needs a degree or qualification.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by ipaddr on Saturday July 17, 2021 @01:49PM (#27867472)
Dentist, vet clinic, lawyer are three.

Daycare center, hairstyling and financial advisor are others that require qualifications / lic

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by chrisseaton on Saturday July 17, 2021 @03:10PM (#27868035)
> Dentist, vet clinic, lawyer are three.

People aren't learning these professions at folk high school are they?

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by UK-Al05 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @03:58PM (#27868334)
That's the point. Most people want adult education so they have comfortable lives. Learning about history is a luxury pursuit really for people who are already comfortable and have spare time.

So you really need education that leads to recognised qualifications.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by UK-Al05 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @10:53AM (#27866191)
Yes, because tons of people have the capital to open business and hire employees.

Reality is most people wanting to retrain are going to do it as a single person business as a plumber, hair dresser or similar.

Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by kingofpandora on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:32AM (#27866476)
Going and getting a degree isn't a good way of raising capital.
Re:Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher ed... by UK-Al05 on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:33AM (#27866486)
I never said it was. It's potentially good way of getting a well paid job though.