Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by SirLJ on Thursday July 15, 2021 @08:45PM
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Because no one in Canada wants to get vaccinated with it or maybe because US is not recognizing it, so you cannot cross the border even if you are vaccinated with AZ…
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by powerapple on Friday July 16, 2021 @02:55AM
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I don't think people cares so much about US recognition of the vaccine. AZ has been very unpopular to be honest. Many countries are donating AZ away while their vaccination program are still running. But it is still good for poor countries, we don't have much choice anyway.
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by zibzab on Friday July 16, 2021 @08:51AM
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AZ have had some issues but it's still 100x better than the Chinese vaccine that barely has any effects (just look at the death rates) and a Russian vaccine where some batches work and some batches cause epilepsy...
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by powerapple on Saturday July 17, 2021 @04:25AM
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That's what I said, AZ is still good for poor countries. I don't know if it is better than Chinese one or not, from what I have observed, AZ has side effect issue, and is not offering first tier protection. I am only commenting on AZ, not trying to start a political fight.
It would make sense to publish the real world data for all these vaccine, but it would have a bad influence on vaccination. I hope data will be published in the future.
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by 908B64B197 on Friday July 16, 2021 @03:39PM
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I'm on the fence about letting people choosing non-approved vaccines cross the border.
AZ should at least get some sort of certification from the FDA that it offers an adequate immune protection. Might still be unsafe to administer to the American public but good enough to allow in.
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by evandijk70 on Friday July 16, 2021 @08:40AM
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Even if it was 'unwanted stuff' - the alternative would be that Canada sells the vaccines to other countries? Or would you prefer it if Canada would destroy the vaccines?
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by mthoms on Thursday July 15, 2021 @11:47PM
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Come on, “dumping”? We can visit Facebook for hyperbolic and paranoid cynicism.
Pragmatically speaking, it’s the only vaccine (that Canada has access to) that can be stored and transported in a regular fridge. Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries.
Sure, it’s slightly higher risk than the others, but it’s a thousand times better than nothing.
On a personal note, my 69 year old mother got it and had no problems. The odds of developing problems are astronomically low.
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by Tenoke on Thursday July 15, 2021 @11:59PM
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I had AZ (both doses) and much preferred it to waiting for something else. The extra risk is miniscule and the extra period of protection likely pays off more than later but slightly higher protection.
Re:Canada to donate 17.7M AstraZeneca doses
by mikeblackson on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:41AM
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Canada should donate their Pfizer and Moderna shots instead. Canada is more capable of dealing with any resulting blood clot issues than lower to poor income countries.
> All donations by Canadians will be matched by the federal government, up to a maximum of $10 million. The campaign runs until Sept. 6
https://www.unicef.ca/en/what-we-do/donate-to-coronavirus
If you donate $20, that covers 4 people, and the government will match it to help 4 more people.
A lot of us in tech have done pretty well during the pandemic. It seems only right to help others now.
India donated around 60 million before it's recent wave
https://www.wsj.com/articles/india-starts-covid-19-vaccine-d...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-astrazeneca-travell...
https://ca.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information-canada-3/
It would make sense to publish the real world data for all these vaccine, but it would have a bad influence on vaccination. I hope data will be published in the future.
AZ should at least get some sort of certification from the FDA that it offers an adequate immune protection. Might still be unsafe to administer to the American public but good enough to allow in.
(although the theatre has since reversed their stance)
Pragmatically speaking, it’s the only vaccine (that Canada has access to) that can be stored and transported in a regular fridge. Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries.
Sure, it’s slightly higher risk than the others, but it’s a thousand times better than nothing.
On a personal note, my 69 year old mother got it and had no problems. The odds of developing problems are astronomically low.
They were available at the same time.
7 clots in 20 million vaccinated which is below background levels.
Logistically it’s the best choice for donating to poorer, undeveloped countries.