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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by Theodores on Monday July 12, 2021 @03:52PM (#27814286)
A century ago horses had Full Self Driving with the human having to be vigilant and in charge.

The horse could go crazy in scary situations endangering others but you could train that out and make a good war horse.

Basic stuff like following the road around a bend was something the horse could do but you could not tell it to autonomously go across town to pick someone up.

People were okay with horses and knew what to expect. Tesla need to rebrand autopilot to 'horse mode' and reset people's expectations of FSD.

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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by jazzyjackson on Monday July 12, 2021 @04:42PM (#27814842)
Horses could at least make their own way back home, and they were self-fueling to boot!
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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by Nohortax on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:20PM (#27824297)
The problem is that they are self-fueling all the time where grass is if you are not aware or if you didn't teach well your horse to avoid eating each blade of grass on the way. The journey might be very long haha
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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by QuibbleQuota on Monday July 12, 2021 @10:50PM (#27817224)
Definitely not zero emissions though…
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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by foobiekr on Monday July 12, 2021 @10:58PM (#27817249)
Horses do not run into concrete pillars.
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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by Nohortax on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:11PM (#27824197)
No but they can run over other living beings or even cars : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nYiV2YVLHg (In this one, I blame the driver)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ft9OXQ03qE (you can stop after the first hit because it repeats in loop) (I chose the less shocked one, some of them are terrible).

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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by ahartmetz on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @04:08AM (#27818607)
Yeah. For the purpose of behavior prediction while driving, horses can be approximated as very dull, very easily panicked humans. They have all the regular instincts (collision avoidance, fear of heights etc) that keep animals alive.

FSD is a complete alien that might try to kill itself for the most trivial and inscrutable reason like the sensor noise excited the neural network in a certain way.

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Re:Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 fails by Nohortax on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:45PM (#27824589)
Horses' behavior strongly depends on their education, training and the driver. A good one with a good driver doesn't give in to fear. You even can make a helicopter fly next to it if it is well trained. If FSD gets the perfection and you don't need to enjoy your driving it would be dull. It's like having a personal driver. What makes driving a car or a good horse (or whatever) fun is the interaction with them, the handling of your own decisions and your accuracy to carry out a manoeuvre
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