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Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by aunty_helen on Saturday July 10, 2021 @10:24AM (#27793525)
What a tight rope this author has to walk. You want commute suggestions but you don’t want google to know where you live or work?

I’ll bat for google on this one, the value I get from Gmaps vs the value they get from my data seems like a fair exchange.

Also PSA, if you use Bluetooth with your car, your city transport department is tracking you. Best of luck opting out of that or even finding who to contact.

Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by jabyess on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:16AM (#27793925)
> Also PSA, if you use Bluetooth with your car, your city transport department is tracking you. Best of luck opting out of that or even finding who to contact.

Can you say more about this? I've never heard of it.

Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by post_break on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:26AM (#27794027)
Houston does it. They have bluetooth trackers on all the highways. They use it for determining congestion based on how often you can ping the same address. Keeps pinging? Gridlock. Pings once, traffic moving.
Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by stjohnswarts on Monday July 12, 2021 @11:58PM (#27817505)
I wander if anyone has any proof it's being stored for future use or used for anything but general traffic data.
Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by RyJones on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:22AM (#27793993)
Not sure what they’re pointing to, but TPMS tracking is possible as well.

https://youtu.be/TDYoo7TGNcw

Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by aunty_helen on Saturday July 10, 2021 @01:11PM (#27794881)
Sure, here's the one I've had experience with: https://addinsight.com.au/

They put powerful bluetooth sensors on poles or in roadside cabinets. They're pretty cheap to deploy so have become widely used.

Pretty much if you have two bluetooth devices talking to each other, you can be tracked by your bluetooth mac address. (Same as wifi networks and sniffing with wireshark etc)

Or if you have a device pinging with a non-random mac (ie your car).

If you've got an iphone and it's not actively being used, you get a random mac, no problems.

Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by TecoAndJix on Saturday July 10, 2021 @07:23PM (#27797177)
Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by foolfoolz on Saturday July 10, 2021 @01:00PM (#27794800)
you don’t even need bluetooth. there’s license plate readers on all highways which feed into traffic indicators on apps or those road signs that say how many minutes away places are
Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by aunty_helen on Saturday July 10, 2021 @01:16PM (#27794921)
License plate readers are costly and need to be positioned with a good field of view etc.

Bluetooth sensors are more widely used, you've just never noticed them.

Also, the highway congestion is most likely done with magnetic inductance loops.

Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by Allezxandre on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:08AM (#27793840)
But the point is that Apple Maps also has the commute suggestions without the privacy cost
Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by lyongu on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:15AM (#27793913)
As long as you're using a cellular network, you're trackable, no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFns39RXPrU
Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by Allezxandre on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:26AM (#27794034)
Maybe, I don’t know, but it doesn’t mean we should just give up on protecting our data everywhere else.

A GPS or Bluetooth signal would be far more precise as a mass surveillance tool, so let’s not give that up

Re:Apple Maps vs. Google Maps by benhurmarcel on Saturday July 10, 2021 @04:56PM (#27796414)
Not being tracked in addition by an advertising company is worth something to me.