Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by CliffStoll on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:00PM
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If there really is a Cliff Stoll award, I'd be happy to contribute a Klein bottle for its continuation. (seriously!)
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by scoot on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:42PM
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Amazon can afford to buy one from your listing... although the recipient might be in for a nasty surprise!
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by CliffStoll on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @10:15PM
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Ha!
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by richbradshaw on Thursday July 01, 2021 @04:55AM
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Unless they have a real blackhead problem I guess!
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by dlgeek on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @11:48PM
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I've won one in the past. It's no longer being awarded to the best of my knowledge. But the recipients did get copies of your book (it was my second copy!).
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by nextaccountic on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:18PM
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Apparently this individual works on AWS and won a Amazon's Cliff Stoll Award:
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by danparsonson on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:07AM
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Plot twist: the root cause is greed
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by swalsh on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:35PM
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Allowing trusted sellers to be hijacked is not greedy behavior. Keeping 3rd sellers happy will result in less returns, happier resellers, and greater platform usage.
The root cause here is organizational failure from disempowered employees. At one point Amazon had great customer service with empowered represenatives. That's not Amazon today.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by danparsonson on Thursday July 01, 2021 @08:07AM
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> Allowing trusted sellers to be hijacked is not greedy behavior
It can be if that's the side effect of a system designed to make selling as frictionless (and therefore lucrative) as possible. Thence, greed could be the root cause, if not the proximate cause.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by Aeolun on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:47PM
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> Allowing trusted sellers to be hijacked is not greedy behavior
Depends entirely on how much the sellers are selling. It’s entirely possible they like the idea of making a ton of sales for a bit. It’s not their reputation that gets destroyed.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by anigbrowl on Thursday July 01, 2021 @12:49AM
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It is if you make more money from the hijackers, and/or from marginalizing your 'difficult' employees.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by reaperducer on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @06:18PM
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I posit that it's not greed. It's laziness. Why do a great job, when "good enough" is good enough for 90% of the people? That's how business works today.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by danparsonson on Thursday July 01, 2021 @08:05AM
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You could be right, Occam's razor and all that, but I think 'good enough' is a carefully chosen strategy tuned to maximise a bottom line rather than an accident.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by mentos on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @11:01AM
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The root cause is oxygen.
Anyone expecting any other behavior from utility maximizing entities is naive?
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by danparsonson on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @11:19AM
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I would counter that by saying anyone ascribing that mindset automatically to all humans is cynical ;-)
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by hrdwdmrbl on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:57PM
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Disagree. It’s possible to start with that assumption and then design systems with that in mind.
Re:A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing
by danparsonson on Thursday July 01, 2021 @08:03AM
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Agreed, but I guess we're talking about slightly different things (and perhaps I missed the point of the 'oxygen' remark) - I was saying, Amazon's system is designed that way because Amazon are greedy (that's the root cause), and that it's cynical to say that it's just because they're human (and therefore implicitly greedy). Vaguely worded statements on my part though, I should've been clearer.
I wonder what would happen if someone at Amazon pulled on this thread and not only solved Cliff's problem but also the root cause that enables this kind of product hijacking.