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Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by dathinab on Monday June 28, 2021 @05:43PM (#27668589)
> Not sure what the FTC's game plan was going into an antitrust fight without a market share pitch.

Maybe their plan was to lose to destabilize any later lawsuit which would have had a reasonable chance of winning?

Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by ascar on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:08PM (#27669501)
Hanlon's Razor

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by Frost1x on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:15PM (#27669569)
I've seen far too much malice feigning stupidity to ever take this concept seriously. There's a lot of stupidity, but there's also a lot of corruption parading around as stupidity.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by simondotau on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:43PM (#27669793)
Fundamentally I would argue that this conflates malice and greed. They may be bedfellows, but aren’t necessarily the same thing.

Regardless, this still wouldn’t break Hanlon’s Razor because when you have enough information to adequately explain corruption so devious that it has been intentionally dressed as stupidity, it is rarely explained adequately with mere stupidity.

Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by scotty79 on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:21PM (#27670062)
I think that not all things can be sufficiently explained by stupidity no matter how intenslt people attempt to feign it.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by User23 on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:26PM (#27670572)
Also, malice is inherently stupid.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by bryanrasmussen on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @03:27AM (#27672902)
If an action can be adequately explained by stupidity but requires more assumptions than explaining it via malice does, then accepting Hanlon's razor would be in violation of Occam's razor.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by rapind on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:08PM (#27669956)
I wonder though if it needs to be malice or simply lack of will / motivation. If you have pressure from both sides (and the politics that initiated this) it can really kill any motivation to really dig and and do your job. Combine this with all the turbulence in federal gov positions, it might just feel like a total shit show to work there and some people may just putting in their time for the pension or w/e.

A lot of maybes, but I do wonder if the wheels of government are still recovering and whether the consequences of this are sometimes indirect and not so obvious. Bad management can leave waves.

TBH if I worked in public services over the last few year I'd probably feel pretty under-appreciated and it would be hard to motivate myself.

Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by alexeldeib on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:26PM (#27670118)
Borrowing from Wikipedia, I prefer this phrasing:

Misunderstandings and lethargy perhaps produce more wrong in the world than deceit and malice do. At least the latter two are certainly rarer.

Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by notgonnahappen on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:43PM (#27670247)
You forget we're talking about politicians; typically you get both.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by shusaku on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:07PM (#27670449)
What is the razor we should use when it’s neither malice nor stupidity, but instead just an unwinnable case? It seems like way too many people think it’s easy to prove Facebook is a monopoly.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by throwawayboise on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:37PM (#27670648)
It probably would be easy to prove (or at least support the claim); it sounds more like the FTC didn't even try.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by dathinab on Thursday July 01, 2021 @08:32AM (#27698465)
Indeed,

through I also think we might need to better differentiate between content platforms with social aspect (YouTube, TickTock), Social Networks (Facebook, Instagram?) and Messengers (WhatsApp, Signal, etc.).

Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by salawat on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:22PM (#27671365)
Hanlon's whetstone: Sometimes it takes so much effort to be stupid, the malice is implied. Just, not necessarily in the direction you think.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by sam345 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:48AM (#27684971)
Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by politics.
Re:Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints agains... by grumblenum on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:00PM (#27671212)
Mark Zuckerberg made some substantial (100s of millions I’ve read) donations to the DNC and proxies. It would be surprising that they would then almost immediately try to destroy his company. A quid pro quo is pretty believable.