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Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by h2odragon on Sunday June 27, 2021 @10:20AM (#27651763)
The rotating mass of the heat sink would need an enclosure for safety reasons, negating most of the airflow advantages. "Transfer heat through an axle" sounds like one of those "draw the rest of the owl" steps too; no idea how that's supposed to work.

*edit: Maybe a hydraulic motor where the fluid is turning a big impeller? Torque converter with an open side, kinda thing...

Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by icegreentea2 on Sunday June 27, 2021 @12:42PM (#27653034)
As described by the lab, the Sandia cooler predominantly transfers heat across an air-gap (maintained via self-generated fluid bearing) between the base plate and rotating impeller.

As described, they claim that if they can maintain the air-gap to 10um, then they get a net win since the specific (per surface area) thermal resistance is sufficiently low (due to only being 10um), and the transfer surface area is comparatively enormous. Nevertheless, the air-gap still forms the dominant component of their overall thermal resistance.

Reading through their posted development report [0], it's apparent that they were having trouble hitting that 10um target with their designs.

Not exactly a surprise that this is the most difficult part. Not surprising that the "commercialized versions" (see other posts) don't use this mechanism.

[0] https://ip.sandia.gov/techpdfs/Development%20of%20Sandia%20C...

Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by KMag on Sunday June 27, 2021 @11:49AM (#27652508)
Right. High thermal gradients through ball bearings or roller bearings are tricky, and you don't get much contact area for thermal conduction in the bearing (meaning most bearing applications need to be mindful of cooling). (Pro tip from MIT 2.72: make sure to position bearings such that thermal stress from the shaft undergoing more thermal expansion than the rest of the machine doesn't jam the bearings.)

I guess you'd want a bearing with sodium-potassium alloy (hazmat!) or mercury (hazmat!) or something. Or... make the casing for the shaft into a heat pipe with ammonia or alcohol vapor.

Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by convolvatron on Sunday June 27, 2021 @09:16PM (#27657091)
What about old style Babbitt bearings
Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by KMag on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:37AM (#27661078)
You're right. Plain bearings provide plenty of contact surface for thermal conduction. Though, thermal expansion will tend to increase clearance and decrease contact area (ignoring differences in thermal expansion between dissimilar materials).
Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by amelius on Sunday June 27, 2021 @11:49AM (#27652503)
Perhaps the CPU is rotating too? Wait, perhaps I should patent this idea first.
Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by Y_Y on Sunday June 27, 2021 @12:21PM (#27652833)
The amazing part of this is that each individual core makes contact with each region of the (obviously stationary) memory drum once per revolution, providing dynamic cache adjacency.
Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by layoutIfNeeded on Sunday June 27, 2021 @07:26PM (#27656438)
Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by layoutIfNeeded on Sunday June 27, 2021 @07:24PM (#27656428)
Make sure to incorporate an anti-twister mechanism for extra weirdness points: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-twister_mechanism
Re:The Sandia Cooler (2016) by drudu on Sunday June 27, 2021 @11:54AM (#27652557)
A linked video claims that the commercial version attempts to transfer heat from one rotating metal surface to another (the the part that connects to the CPU and the bottom of the spinning thingy) separated by an extremely thin layer of air. This is "supposed to" transfer heat as if the metal is touching but "doesn't see to work very well in practice"