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Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by g8oz on Saturday June 26, 2021 @07:03PM (#27646819)
The opinions of Americans in particular on this issue are very relevant. The U.S provides Israel with a diplomatic, military and financial blank check. Many of the most aggressive elements of the settler movement that makes life so difficult for Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank are funded by American non-profit groups like the Central Fund of Israel. In addition some 60,000 ideologically driven American citizens are living as settlers in the West Bank.
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by wolverine876 on Saturday June 26, 2021 @07:25PM (#27646959)
As I posted eleswhere, note that American Christian Evangelicals support Israel's right-wing policies much more strongly than American Jews, who are mostly liberal and Democrats.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=evangelical+support+for+israel+sit...

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by threatofrain on Saturday June 26, 2021 @10:26PM (#27647966)
You should link directly to the sources you curate, rather than just linking a duckduckgo search.
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by slipframe on Saturday June 26, 2021 @11:54PM (#27648441)
He seems to be right according to Pew in 2014: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/02/27/strong-supp...

> Pew Research surveys find that similar shares of Christians (29%) and Jews (31%) say the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel. Among white evangelical Protestants, nearly half (46%) say that the U.S. is not providing enough support for Israel.

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by Gustomaximus on Sunday June 27, 2021 @02:18AM (#27649083)
Context matters, but often I like a search result over article. When someone knows vast majority of results go the stated direction vs here is an article that supports a view as often that is bias writing. A search result link to a degree shows greater neutrality vs particular press in the right context.
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by wolverine876 on Sunday June 27, 2021 @02:16AM (#27649065)
Says who? Why?
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Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by dang on Sunday June 27, 2021 @01:37AM (#27648887)
Religious flamewar will get you banned here. Please don't post like this, regardless of whose religion you have a problem with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by simondotau on Sunday June 27, 2021 @03:02AM (#27649275)
I'm confused why this post was described as "flamewar" as it's a single sentence of factually correct information.[1] The only part I'd take issue with is the use of the word "fable". Fables are succinct short stories which end in a moral lesson—and the apocalyptic Book of Revelation is neither short nor moral.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/h...

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by dang on Sunday June 27, 2021 @02:15PM (#27653815)
That's stretching way too far. "Apocalyptic fables" was obviously a religious putdown. People aren't allowed to smear each other's religions on HN because it leads to some of the nastiest, dumbest, and most repetitive internet threads. It should be obvious from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html why we don't want that.
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by simondotau on Sunday June 27, 2021 @08:36PM (#27656859)
I'd still assert that "fables" is merely inaccurate, but I will accept this can be a matter of opinion. However you just quoted "apocalyptic fables" as though describing it as apocalyptic were somehow relevant to the negative connotation. Book of Revelation isn't just any apocalyptic literature, it's prototypical of the genre.[1] Apocalypse is the literally a Greek-derived word for revelation.[2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalyptic_literature

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by dang on Sunday June 27, 2021 @09:18PM (#27657106)
I know where the word apocalypse comes from. It doesn't change the point: "apocalyptic fables" was obviously a religious putdown, and those are not cool on HN.
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by pstuart on Sunday June 27, 2021 @01:56PM (#27653660)
I was writing up a sibling reply and then caught the last word of the flagged statement. Using "fables" is dismissive and contentious.

I agree with the assessment but perhaps if it was phased as:

"Yes, because they believe that they need to be on the side of Israel for their anticipated apocalypse."

Or something like that. Unfortunately "people of faith" tend to take any sort of criticism of the mechanics of their faith as a personal attack. Pity.

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by simondotau on Sunday June 27, 2021 @09:12PM (#27657064)
> Unfortunately "people of faith" tend to take any sort of criticism of the mechanics of their faith as a personal attack.

An unavoidable consequence of any belief system which assigns significant personal reward upon faith, because criticism of faith places their personal reward into question. More unfortunate is how secular institutions are unintentionally rewarding people of faith for having a thin skin by so eagerly accepting it as a signal to quash criticism. I'd argue that nothing "tramples curiosity" quite so much as the systemic disappearance of criticism in the public square.

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by pvg on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:19AM (#27650254)
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by kdjsbdb on Sunday June 27, 2021 @04:26AM (#27649687)
Happy to see hn is moderated against blasphemy, how progressive!
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by dang on Sunday June 27, 2021 @02:23PM (#27653878)
Obviously we don't care about that. We care about having HN threads stay above the bottom of the internet barrel, to the extent possible.

If you would please stop creating accounts to break HN's guidelines with, we'd be grateful.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by lobocinza on Monday June 28, 2021 @08:02AM (#27660745)
Censuring is the shortest way to the bottom.
Re:The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media by dang on Monday June 28, 2021 @03:04PM (#27666250)
People use the word "censor" in many different ways that it's not always clear what they mean by it.

We don't moderate HN comments because of the views they express; we moderate for comment quality and adherence to the site guidelines. In the vast majority of cases where we moderate a comment, it's not because of the view it expresses, but because it expressed it in a way that's destructive of the culture we want here (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). You can call that censorship if you like, but I don't think it's what the word classically means. In most cases there are other commenters expressing the same view thoughtfully and substantively, and those comments don't get moderated at all. I think we can say after 10+ years of working with this strategy that it definitely isn't "the shortest way to the bottom" - quite the opposite.