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Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by davesque on Thursday June 24, 2021 @05:13PM (#27623837)
Yeah, I hear you on that. Another possibility is that NPR is trying to manufacture a sense of mystery or surprise as journalists often do with science stories. A bit less nefarious but also sort of annoying in its own way.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday June 24, 2021 @05:15PM (#27623868)
It's more than annoying. It comes part and parcel with the dumbing down of society.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by geoduck14 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @05:46PM (#27624221)
Most of my work could benefit from a journalist

> Overworked Engineer misses semicolon. All night review session finds it, data gets loaded!

> Management insists Jira stories be routed to new Epic. Team Lead spends hours learning Jira API before giving up and doing it "the hard way"

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by tharkun__ on Thursday June 24, 2021 @06:32PM (#27624762)
Completely not related to the topic at hand but ;)

I love this "spend hours figuring out the API" then giving up.

Maybe it's just me but I have noticed that a lot (and it mean a lot) of devs will overestimate greatly on anything manual they need to do that they don't like. And spend hours if not days trying to automate it. Which is fine if it's gonna be needed again soon or over and over. But really, what is so bad in spending literally 5 minutes doing the above manually with a Jira filter and bulk edit? And by extension sometimes there's not even a bulk edit and you need to do something by clicking the same 5 steps 50 times to acgieve something. Again 5 minutes of actual work. Just put on a nice fast song from whatever music genre you happen to love and do it. Done.

Is it just me?

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by ravel-bar-foo on Thursday June 24, 2021 @09:16PM (#27626052)
I discovered this in my PhD. I spent 3 months trying to automate a process (running a finite element model atop very fragile software platform). I couldn't figure out how to automate my way around the errors the system would give me, every run was unpredictable in duration due to the errors, and I ended up spending a lot of time holding the system's hand.

Eventually gave up on the automation and resolved to spend a few weeks clicking every 15 minutes to complete the simulations. It was very hard to stay motivated, but I got two papers out of it.

The disadvantage is now my CV says I'm an expert at an FEM framework which I never want anything to do with ever again.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by xwolfi on Friday June 25, 2021 @12:23AM (#27627130)
Normally if your eyes and hands are synchronized to do an operation, it can be automated.

Sometimes problems come from trying to automate at the lowest level, when maybe screenshotting a vm and sending a click at a specific position if the pixel colors change to the error condition could be done a bit faster.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by rebuilder on Friday June 25, 2021 @12:44AM (#27627227)
The real engineers spend weeks analyzing the pros and cons of a manual, one-time fix vs. building an automated solution.

And the even realer ones will spend years coming up with a universal solution to figuring out which is more optimal.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by DangitBobby on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:05PM (#27626723)
At least automating it can be kind of fun and educational.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by not2b on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:33PM (#27625731)
Journalists don't choose the clickbait headlines and generally don't care for them; they are business decisions, especially for any site that makes money via ad clicks. They even do A/B testing: initially some visitors are shown headine A, others see headline B. If B gets more clicks, A is dropped.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by dennis_jeeves on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:49PM (#27638612)
> Management insists Jira stories be routed to new Epic.

Agile expert called in, who saves the day(night?)...

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by jcun4128 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @06:03PM (#27624433)
I find a lot of content on YT is like that. The actual work is skipped hand-waved then it's every other second cut scene and some music on top... Idk. Started unsubscribing from channels lately. Still some good ones.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by embeddTrway690 on Friday June 25, 2021 @03:00AM (#27627907)
That's internet for most people. We are in a bubble and the bubble is actually much better than that.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by rajandatta on Thursday June 24, 2021 @07:05PM (#27625080)
I'm not sure how much more mystery one neds than 'Only orbiting telescope in human history has a fault our best engineers haven't diagnosed as yet!' :-)
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by imoverclocked on Thursday June 24, 2021 @07:38PM (#27625326)
Interestingly, we humans actually have more than just Hubble floating around up there in the way of telescopes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_telescopes

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by femto on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:40PM (#27625795)
Missing from the list are the space telescopes that look inwards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KH-11_Kennen

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by slipframe on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:47PM (#27626638)
Fascinating buried lead:

> A NASA history of the Hubble,[24] in discussing the reasons for switching from a 3-meter main mirror to a 2.4-meter design, states: "In addition, changing to a 2.4-meter mirror would lessen fabrication costs by using manufacturing technologies developed for military spy satellites."

Hubble was derived from these spy satellites.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by perl4ever on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:45PM (#27626940)
What's mindboggling to me is the sheer number of spy satellites that were more or less each equivalent to Hubble.

There are estimated to have been something like seventeen of the KH-11 satellites, each one of which cost something like 2/3s of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KH-11_Kennen

And there are an unknown number of its successor, but probably at least 3, where they updated it for stealth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misty_(satellite)

It feels like a parallel universe where what is a technical struggle and tour de force here, is churned out by the dozens.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by slipframe on Friday June 25, 2021 @12:15AM (#27627095)
Hubble was botched initially, they had to send astronauts up to fix it before they could get usable images out of it. I wonder what the success rate for those spy satellites was. Maybe some of them were replacements for others, replaced instead of repaired?
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by wmf on Friday June 25, 2021 @12:40AM (#27627205)
If you go back a little more, they used to launch one or two film-based disposable spy satellites per month.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by mancerayder on Thursday June 24, 2021 @06:37PM (#27624818)
> trying to manufacture a sense of mystery or surprise

That's a positive spin on clickbait.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by JJMcJ on Thursday June 24, 2021 @06:15PM (#27624545)
Either mystery or bad puns based on the science.

Extra points if you can throw "Einstein" in the headline.