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Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by Koshkin on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:35AM (#27618154)
Debugging on a computer that is down is not a very exciting process.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by qzw on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:48AM (#27618405)
In the movie Hero[0], two kung fu masters fight a battle purely in their minds. And when the mental fight was over, they only execute one physical move to finish the battle.

Think of this as the computer equivalent of that scene.

[0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0299977/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by bshep on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:29AM (#27619024)
In case anyone wants to watch a clip of the fight:

https://youtu.be/AeeoEpmyb2Y

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by fishtoaster on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:58AM (#27619476)
_Hero_'s always been one of my favorites. A lot of kung fu movies try to strike a balance between aesthetics and realism - I really enjoy a movie that picks one (in this case the former) and goes all in on it. It's got a fight that takes place entirely on the surface of a lake, and another that takes places in a forest of falling leaves that change color several times throughout the scene. It's an incredibly beautiful movie.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by barbazoo on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:41AM (#27619207)
Both: Dance around for 10 minutes trying to out-physics each other

Guy 1: Why don't I just poke him with the pointy bit

Great scene though, makes me want to watch the whole movie.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by qzw on Thursday June 24, 2021 @12:22PM (#27619828)
Yeah, this is strictly artistic kung fu, which is basically high-mortality ballet. There are also many "realistic" martial arts films, if that's your thing. I enjoy both styles, depending on mood.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by the_af on Thursday June 24, 2021 @01:19PM (#27620830)
Agreed. Wuxia to be specific, which is kinda like fantasy kung fu and has a long tradition.

It includes powers like becoming weightless, killing with a single movement, flying, etc.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by avaldes on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:04AM (#27618663)
Like the battle between Sherlock and Moriarty in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows?
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by the_af on Thursday June 24, 2021 @01:18PM (#27620815)
Yes. A lot of Western action movies owe their inspiration to Chinese movies (and I suppose, viceversa). In this case Hero (2002) -- or a similar movie, since I doubt it invented this trope -- is likely an inspiration for A Game of Shadows (2011).
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by jasonwatkinspdx on Thursday June 24, 2021 @05:09PM (#27623787)
HK movies clearly inspired the action movies of the 90s.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by the_af on Thursday June 24, 2021 @06:34PM (#27624792)
Yes, with some cases like John Woo even explicitly crossing over to Hollywood :)

A friend just reminded me the same "battle of the minds" trope is used in Takeshi Kitano's version of "Zatoichi": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlVK7ogwyUI

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by ISL on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:55AM (#27619425)
What a wonderful visual representation of the notion that, "a battle is won before it begins."
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday June 24, 2021 @04:25PM (#27623313)
Which is a Tsun-tzu reference presumably, he says don't enter a battle unless you have 'already' won (through preparation, numerical supremacy, etc.).
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by gautamcgoel on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:13AM (#27618797)
Ugh, such a good movie... If you haven't seen it, do yourself a favor and go see it.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by NetOpWibby on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:09AM (#27618734)
This sounds amazing!
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by meepmorp on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:06AM (#27618690)
No, but "Debugging on a computer that is down... in space," does sound more interesting, right?

You have a computer that you can only interact with over a radio link, and need to make it start working again with only what you know about how the system is built and a limited set of remote commands. Sounds like something I'd get obsessed with solving.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by amelius on Thursday June 24, 2021 @01:02PM (#27620531)
There is a game in here, somewhere, somehow.
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by zomglings on Thursday June 24, 2021 @03:59PM (#27623026)
Paging Zachtronics (https://www.zachtronics.com/).
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by pbourke on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:38AM (#27618200)
Speak for yourself
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by zepearl on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:58AM (#27619487)
I did something like that when trying to boot my brand new root server in Finland a few weeks ago (tried ~50 times while having UEFI enabled plus mdadm raid1 on GPT partitions, never worked, asked support to disable UEFI, worked).

Confirming that not being able to ping/connect to it during the failed attempts was absolutely not exciting :)

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by only_as_i_fall on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:37AM (#27618179)
I'll settle for the post-mortem
Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by mkarr on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:02AM (#27618624)
pg down

Sigh.

pg down

Sigh

...

Repeat for hours.

Re:NASA can't figure out what's causing computer issues on t... by smileysteve on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:55AM (#27618513)
especially with extremely long response times.