A backlash against gender ideology is starting in universities

Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by tabtab on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @02:39PM (#27608325)

CIS (as born) women may also have (traditional) male-like traits. If you separate people by traits in prison, then why separate based on trans-ness alone? For example, large women are more likely to rape small women in prison simply because they can. If you separate based on such risks, then separate large women from small women also; why focus on just trans?

Many prisons already separate by ethnic group simply to keep the peace. Yes, it's segregation, but the alternative is more prison riots.

Thus, if separation happens for practical reasons, then don't limit the separation practices to one group; otherwise, you will be accused of discrimination, perhaps justifiably. Use statistics, not stereotypes, to find the split points.

Or get better security so mixing doesn't result in problems. Lowest-bidder security has down-sides.

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by lovegoblin on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:02PM (#27608608)

> "Regular" women

The word you're looking for is "cis".

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by worik on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @05:04PM (#27610351)

I like the term "natal women/men".

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by tabtab on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:26PM (#27608892)

I corrected it; however, keep in mind many readers don't know that means.

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by mkl on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @05:39PM (#27610791)

It's not an acronym, it's a prefix, like "trans" but the opposite.

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by dang on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:55PM (#27609296)

Trolling will get you banned here. You've unfortunately been doing this repeatedly lately. Please stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by ta122347 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @06:00PM (#27611041)

Its this sort of thing that backlash is all about. You cant have an unapproved opinion or refuse to use their terminology or authoritarians will silence you, label it as trolling or hate speech etc. Real is absolutely the simplest and best description. Trans and cis are poisoned terms their use designed to support the legitimacy of the identity. There is only real and fake.

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by dang on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @07:17PM (#27611793)

This thread is full of people commenting on both sides of the question so obviously there's no "you can't have an unapproved opinion". What you can't do is toss obvious flamebait, for the same reason you don't get to toss lit matches at a gas station. You can describe that as "you can't have an unapproved smoking device" if you want, but it's misleading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by freemint on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:22PM (#27608849)

What you just said will understood as extremely hurtful and a purposeful attack on trans people by (some) trans people or trans advocates. Did you do that on purpose?

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by lovegoblin on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:18PM (#27608803)

I assure you it is not.

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Re:A backlash against gender ideology is starting in univers... by josteink on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @06:01PM (#27611044)

“Real” and most people will know what you’re talking about.

The only people using the term “cis” are trans-activists.

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