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Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by mcguire on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:40PM (#27564697)
The guy provided expert testimony in a court. The opposition reported him to the Board of Examiners. The Board of Examiners requires a PE license for those who provide expert testimony. He is going to get to pay the fine.

"Is giving a speech about how to treat a broken bone considered ‘practicing medicine’?"

Giving the speech in a court, on the witness stand, under oath, claiming to be an expert in treating broken bones?

How about an example from engineering? A bridge collapses and fifty or sixty people die. In the resulting lawsuit, Bob, a nationally recognized bridge engineer, testifies, with many pages of reports, that the design of the bridge was substantially bad. Ted, who has a degree in engineering and worked for 20 years as an engineer (designing coffee makers, say) testifies that according to his calculations, of which he presents a plethora, the bridge design was entirely adequate and the failure was an "act of god".

Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by Buttons840 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:39PM (#27565172)
Your last example is backwards. In this case the guy without an engineering license is demonstrating what is wrong. So the example should be:

A bridge collapses and people die. In the resulting lawsuit a licensed engineer says, with many pages of reports, that everything was done correctly and the collapse was "an act of god". But an amateur who only knows a little about civil engineering points out one single thing they did incorrectly; he doesn't know everything about engineering, but he does know this one thing they did was wrong. The government then charges the amateur with a crime for knowing a little and speaking about what he knew.

Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by vharuck on Sunday June 20, 2021 @09:33AM (#27569786)
The prosecution should take the amateur's opinion to a certified expert to (1) meet the legal requirements for an expert witness, and (2) verify the amateur is correct. Trial lawyers do this kind of thing all the time with experts. Even if the lawyer understands and can explain the problem, in the US at least, he cannot himself give testimony. He needs to present it through a witness.
Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by username90 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @10:13AM (#27570186)
What if the licensing board is corrupt? It is perfectly reasonable to suspect that they might protect their own in some cases, similar to police testimonies.
Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by vharuck on Sunday June 20, 2021 @11:01AM (#27570690)
It is definitely possible, and even has a clear financial and reputational incentive. But a lawyer only needs one expert witness and can pay that expert. And then that expert can use his testimony as validation of his skill or a new concept. So the expert witness would also have financial and reputational incentives to defect from the licensing board's dogma. Many people have heard of doctors and psychologists using roles as expert witness to push their theories.

That leaves the risk of a board ousting (or implicitly promising to oust) people based their expert testimony in court. Which would fall back onto the board's rules about revoking licenses. Lawmakers would likely get involved if any funny business happened; revoking isn't an obscure bylaw, but one of the two major purposes of the board (giving licenses being the other). I'll admit this hypothetical gets too complicated and delves too deeply into politics for me to guess likely.

Do you know of any historic examples besides police unions? I'll admit they match your worry, but the police benefit from massive public support that borders on mythology. So it's hard for politicians to do much about those problems.

Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by morelisp on Sunday June 20, 2021 @10:52AM (#27570596)
The corruption of the licensing board - which is not argued at all in this case, it's just whole-cloth speculation on your part - is not relevant to whether or not Nutt has the first amendment right to testify or the board the right to sanction him if he does.
Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by Aeolun on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:40PM (#27565175)
Yes? If you literally state “I, like 80% of the other engineers in this state, am not a licenced engineer, but here is my testimony”, what else would you expect the poor man to do? It’s up to the judge/jury to take the testimony with a grain of salt.

That said, I’m not sure if being licensed means anything more than ‘I paid my dues to the state board’.

Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by geoduck14 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @07:35PM (#27565558)
To be a PE, you have to do a handful of things. From memory:

Take a test

Study under an actual PE for a period of time

Take another test

Pay some money

Do some work

I studied Engineering in school, but I didn't get a PE because taking the test was too much effort and I wasn't going to work with any PEs, so I assume that actual PEs know stuff that I don't know.

Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by mcguire on Saturday June 19, 2021 @08:26PM (#27565862)
Continuing education is another.
Re:North Carolina tells retired engineer he can't talk about... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday June 19, 2021 @11:40PM (#27566893)
>"Giving the speech in a court, on the witness stand, under oath"

The right and duty of every citizen, what's your point? The oath obligates you to tell the truth, people testify about fraud and murder without being experts.