This is fair, but at least you're sure that when you close the window that it's gone and that is as far as I'm concerned its biggest feature. Oh, and that it seems to work well on all platforms.

“Close browser tab” - immediately exits a Google Meet.

Closing a Zoom/Webex meeting, who knows since it’s still running in the background.

I also like meetings sandboxed in a browser so weird things like “automatically take control of your screen and maximize window” doesn’t happen when someone in a Zoom meeting starts sharing their screen.

Even at the expense of more CPU.

That meme with the actor taking to a bloodied Jesus comes to mind while reading you guys comparing google with zoom. You guys are so lucky. I work on Skype for Business over a Citrix Workspace connection.

While Skype is an unmitigated disaster that can’t do simple stuff like copying text there is Citrix that requires a wizard installer with admin rights that deploys 3 background services and requires an audio plugin (separated, with another wizard installer) to do a worse remote streaming experience than what discord does for teenagers using a browser.

The inability to copy text may be due to an admin setting. At my previous workplace they disabled the ability to paste in images, etc. into Skype for Business saying that it was a security risk. They also disabled the ability to copy and paste between apps except within MS Office for the same reason.

It's not Citrix doing this, but your administrator.

Copy and paste works. They did disabled any communication between the client machine and the Citrix VDI except for audio and camera but the feature I'm complaining about is within the Remote Desktop. It works but its random and terrible. Sometimes you try to copy a single word but it copies the entire message along with the metadata containing sender and timestamp.

Since you are on Skype for Business I'm going to assume you are not using Teams currently. Teams is actually a lot worse in almost every way than SfB when it comes to the functions both systems share.

> While Skype is an unmitigated disaster that can’t do simple stuff like copying text

Do you mean from shared contents or from the chat? The latter works for me, but since you also mention using Citrix Workspace, which sounds like a remote desktop/application tool, it seems likely to me that this is actually the fault of Citrix, not Skype. Remote clipboards seem to be rather unreliable, I'm using DCV 2017 and the clipboard breaks basically every five minutes, necessitating a reconnect.

Sometimes you copy what you want sometimes you copy the message with the metadata and sometimes copy doesn’t work. Pasting stuff from other sources will cause some weird table elements to appear. There is no way to format code. Sometimes it says the message is too big but then you paste the same message into notepad and copy paste again it works just fine. The text editor and visualization seems to be arctifacts of a bygone era where everything was rich text.

I’m not sure if it’s the clipboard because my employer does not allow shared drives, clipboard, usb or any resource from my local machine except for mic and webcam.

Ohhh and let’s talk abou the HUGE black ribbon at the top of the screen when you are sharing your window. It totally covers the browser tabs. You have to restore the window and switch tabs and maximize it again. It _is_ an unmitigated disaster that degrades the overall experience.

> “Close browser tab” - immediately exits a Google Meet.

How would you know? Or, put another way: Why don’t you want to trust Google Meet, but apparently want to trust Google Chrome?

Meet isn't much integrated into Chrome, so absent a Chrome bug, closing Meet stops running Meet code, so stops the meeting. “Closing” Zoom relies on Zoom detecting the closure and stopping the meeting.

It's not about spying from the software authors (having these softwares on your computer makes that impossible to defend against), but about knowing whether the people you were just talking to still have access to your camera and microphone feeds.

> Meet isn't much integrated into Chrome

Again, how would you know that? There is no reasonable way you could possibly know that.

There has never been a webmeeting software that people didn't bitch about constantly. They all suck, because, fundamentally, what they are trying to accomplish sucks. Nobody wants to do audio/video meetings, we just suffer through them because we have to.

Same as bug tracking software.