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Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by himinlomax on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:26AM (#27503728)
> You are not getting health insurance in most European countries unless you are working or registered as unemployed and remain at disposal of the local job centre.

Not the case in France (at least for the past 20 years), and I doubt it's the case in most other European countries.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ChuckNorris89 on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:38AM (#27503894)
>Not the case in France (at least for the past 20 years), and I doubt it's the case in most other European countries.

Nope, your parent is right, in Austria you also don't get healthcare if you don't work or are looking for work via your local job center.

Maybe France is an exception due to having stronger social system that heavily favors the workers (insert memes about strikes) while in Austria the system is very rigid, designed to favor businesses and the government rather than the workers and to discourage abuse.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by himinlomax on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:42AM (#27503943)
I'm pretty sure that's not the case in the UK either, given how it's financed.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by 1991g on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:05PM (#27510832)
It is not - you get access to healthcare at all times (employed or otherwise, young or old) and simply pay a slightly higher tax rate when you are working to pay for it.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by campl3r on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:00PM (#27504224)
definitely the case in Germany. If you're unemployment and not looking for a job or exempt from it(sickness, poverty, ...), you're going to need to pay on your own.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by morelisp on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:20PM (#27504498)
So... not the case in Germany. You don't need to be employed or in social programs, you can just pay money. In Germany it's a fixed amount, less than you would pay if you had income, and they can't refuse you.

I know to a European this might sound like the only two options, but pre-Obamacare, and very possibly again if the US can't get its shit together, it was impossible to buy health insurance no matter how much money you had for a large number of unemployed or self-employed people.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by throwaway894345 on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:54PM (#27504972)
> You don't need to be employed or in social programs, you can just pay money

If there are different pricing tiers based on employment status, then the healthcare system is contingent on employment by definition. It's commendable that the American and European healthcare systems aren't contingent on pre-existing conditions, but that's a distinct issue.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by morelisp on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:05PM (#27505111)
If you are employed the employer pays half and if you are not they don't (somewhat obviously, since if they don't exist they can't). This is only "pricing tiers" in the most vapid sense.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by kube-system on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:34PM (#27505475)
That description could just as easily be for the US. Maybe you disagree with the terminology, but when people talk about their health insurance being predicated on their employment, this is what they are talking about.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ghaff on Monday June 14, 2021 @02:04PM (#27505974)
Obamacare, for all its controversy and limitations, removed the ability to screen for pre-existing condition which was a very important feature. Prior, some people who weren't covered by an employer's group policy simply couldn't get insurance for any amount of money.

Now, yes insurance is expensive, but anyone can get it for about 2x what most people who get healthcare as a benefit are paying into an employer's health care plan.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by throwaway894345 on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:00PM (#27506734)
Right, but since that's no longer a feature of American healthcare, that's not what we're talking about when we compare the US and European systems.