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Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by etaioinshrdlu on Saturday June 12, 2021 @08:30PM (#27488673)
You can also "noun" verbs. One I hear in SV is "an ask". I find myself a bit peeved by it but I don't know why.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by rgrieselhuber on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:20AM (#27492341)
One of the ones I hate the most is "let's find a solve" when they mean to say "let's find a solution."
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by rusk on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:39AM (#27492481)
I almost involuntarily downvoted you when I read that
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by rgrieselhuber on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:57AM (#27492645)
I can sympathize.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by ruste on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:09AM (#27502063)
I think it's worse when they flip it around and inappropriately use a noun as a verb: "Let's solution this."
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by lupire on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:55PM (#27496904)
"Let's solve the problem."
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by darrenf on Saturday June 12, 2021 @10:58PM (#27489383)
“Ask” has had a noun form for as long as I can recall in British English. Phrases like “that’s quite a big ask” and “what’s the ask?” are commonplace IME.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by MiscIdeaMaker99 on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:46AM (#27490100)
Just out of curiosity, I looked it up in an American dictionary and it does have a noun form over here, as well, but it's noted as "chiefly British, informal".

Although, the term "big ask" is something I'm certain I've used before, as well as others, but more in a business/corporate context.

Or maybe I've just watched a lot of British television?

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by andybak on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:17AM (#27490499)
I remember that phrase appearing seemingly out of nowhere 10 years or so ago. (UK)

Very weird. Maybe it had been percolating in business circles earlier than that. I don't tend to mix much in those circles.

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:05AM (#27489898)
I still want to believe it’s people dropping the “t” in “task”.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by jsjohnst on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:40AM (#27490065)
I’ve heard both phrases you mention a lot in American English too.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by mercer on Saturday June 12, 2021 @08:39PM (#27488721)
Much as I tend to be in favor of language evolving, I react almost viscerally to 'compute' as a noun. It is a major irk.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by etaioinshrdlu on Saturday June 12, 2021 @10:17PM (#27489215)
Wait a minute, did you just "noun" irk? I'm irked.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by evv on Saturday June 12, 2021 @10:51PM (#27489358)
Wait a minute, did you just "verb" noun? I'm adjectived
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by dwaite on Sunday June 13, 2021 @06:18PM (#27497071)
Yes it is called "verbing"
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by toxik on Sunday June 13, 2021 @08:06AM (#27491842)
Did you just adjective adjective?
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by arthurcolle on Sunday June 13, 2021 @11:49AM (#27493560)
Technically he just verbed the noun 'adjective'
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by toxik on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:42PM (#27494523)
No, it’s used as an adjective here
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by JohnJamesRambo on Sunday June 13, 2021 @12:07AM (#27489672)
When people say they grok something it hurts me deep inside.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by sqqqqrly on Sunday June 13, 2021 @11:32AM (#27493418)
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by hattar on Sunday June 13, 2021 @12:23AM (#27489732)
Why?
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by snowwrestler on Sunday June 13, 2021 @12:59AM (#27489871)
Maybe because to truly grok a person, you have to eat them [1]. I’d imagine that could hurt that person deep inside if they were alive when you started.

[1] Per the end of A Stranger In a Strange Land

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by Retric on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:33AM (#27492428)
Eating someone isn’t required to grok them in a Stranger in a Strange Land, it’s an aid in doing so.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by killjoywashere on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:03AM (#27490167)
I wonder if that whale groks Michael Packard.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by eps on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:32AM (#27492422)
Yeah, tell me about it. People nouning things... argh, eyeroll.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by Spivak on Saturday June 12, 2021 @11:47PM (#27489587)
What’s a better noun for “abstract resource I can use to do computations on?” Because computer is too general — literally encompassing everything, or too specific — as a synonym for a PC.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by etxm on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:30AM (#27490011)
Wait until you hear someone noun “solve,” it’s the most infuriating sound to leave a PMs mouth.

I’m hoping we can come to an agreement during this meeting to find the solve.

Would ___ work for this solve?

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by xmprt on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:36AM (#27490044)
I love that. It's an attempt to look smart when it really only makes you look stupid or pretentious. Or both. Do they not realize that there's already a word for that - solution?
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by hirsin on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:36AM (#27490047)
A "solve" is common parlance in puzzling in my experience (ie puzzle hunt). Never used it in my day to day PM role though, agreed it would sound awkward.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by istjohn on Sunday June 13, 2021 @07:52AM (#27491769)
”Learnings" is the one that gets my goat.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by nicwilson on Saturday June 12, 2021 @09:38PM (#27489045)
With no context, that sounds like a trading term to me, like "a put".
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by somebodythere on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:03AM (#27489888)
You can "hit the ask" during a trade
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by arthurcolle on Sunday June 13, 2021 @12:30PM (#27493931)
This is incorrect, old sport. You hit the bid and lift the offer (in your parlance "ask" although no one actually calls it that IRL).

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hitthebid.asp

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by octos4murai on Sunday June 13, 2021 @08:26AM (#27491959)
You can. It just doesn’t seem as clever to say “‘noun’ verbs”. It doesn’t have the property where the term is an example of itself.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by eyesee on Saturday June 12, 2021 @09:59PM (#27489129)
In context it sounds like calling in a favor, like “calling in a chit”, in that it’s transactional unlike of the common usage.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by killjoywashere on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:02AM (#27490158)
You’re peeved by “ask” as a noun?! How the hell is “math” plural?! Why maths? The subject (singular) is math (singular). Do you study Englishes? Anthropologies? Medicines?
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by seszett on Sunday June 13, 2021 @10:17AM (#27492808)
Mathematics are plural because it's a group of several disciplines, arithmetic and geometry today (music and astronomy used to be two other math branches in the past). It's actually an adjective that became a noun, so these four were the disciplines mathématiques, becoming simply les mathématiques later on.

At least that's why it's plural in French. I wouldn't be surprised if the English term is plural simply because it comes from French.

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by matja on Sunday June 13, 2021 @08:01AM (#27491804)
There are shortened forms of singular nouns that end in -s, which also end in -s. Some forms are more common in some cultures/places - "stat" vs "stats" for "statistics" comes to mind.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by etaioinshrdlu on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:02AM (#27490439)
Yes, I'm also very peeved by "maths". And a million other things. Calling Universities "Uni". Horned-Rim glasses. A whole slew of grammatical oddities.

I guess that's why I ended up on this site.

Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by stephenr on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:04AM (#27490172)
You know that “math” is just the abbreviated form of “mathematics” right?
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by rsj_hn on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:33AM (#27490305)
"mathematics" may end in "s", but that doesn't make it plural. We say "Mathematics is a science" not "Mathematics are sciences" (replace with "art/arts" if you don't belive it's a science). We also say "mathematics is a growing field", not "mathematics are growing fields". Because it's singular, the fact that it ends in "s" doesn't naturally require shortened forms of it to carry the last letter at the end. I get that in the UK people say "maths", but let's not make this out to be like one side is correct and the other is not because mathematics ends in "s". Particularly as "math" was first coined in the U.K. (much of contemporary U.S. English is an older form of contemporary British English).
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by stephenr on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:43AM (#27490350)
I didn't say it's plural, I said it's the abbreviated form. Math and maths are both abbreviations of mathematics.
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by rsj_hn on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:09AM (#27490468)
You changed the post I was responding to, which was something to the effect of "don't you know mathematics ends with 's'"?
Re:Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor ... by stephenr on Sunday June 13, 2021 @07:34AM (#27491688)
No, I did not.