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Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by exmadscientist on Friday June 11, 2021 @02:47AM (#27470091)
> he likely has dyscalculia

Ironically enough, "someone who likes math but hates arithmetic" isn't a self-contradictory thing. It's actually a perfect description of a pure (that is, professional) mathematician!

Evidence: look no further than the infamous "Grothendieck prime" 51....

Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by OJFord on Friday June 11, 2021 @03:33AM (#27470347)
Erdós is described in Hoffman's biography ('The Man who Loved only Numbers') - I can't recall, nor immediately find by whom - as only being able to count up three numbers: '1, 2, n'.
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by jimktrains2 on Friday June 11, 2021 @08:01AM (#27472146)
Reminds me of the "zero one infinity rule"[0] rule for programming. Roughly stated it says that software should be designed around 3 cases: 0/no instance of a situation, 1/single instance, or an infinite/limitless instances.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule

Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by plutonorm on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:13AM (#27471343)
I have a degree in maths and I suck at arithmetic. Understanding abstract mathematical concepts has little to do with speed and accuracy of thought and more to do with visualisation. But then again you are much better off with both, I often struggled because I could see how to get to the solution but struggled moving the symbols around accurately and fast enough to get to the correct soln in the required time limit.
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by confidantlake on Friday June 11, 2021 @09:32AM (#27473071)
That would explain a lot. I am the opposite. Do well at the math that requires number crunching but terrible at things like geometry where I have to visualize stuff. Probably because of aphantasia.
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by auggierose on Friday June 11, 2021 @09:18AM (#27472914)
I would say visualisation is great to understand those mathematical concepts that can be visualised well. There are many mathematical concepts for which this is not true. Logic comes to mind.
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by creata on Friday June 11, 2021 @03:26AM (#27470311)
It's not really important, but the "Grothendieck prime" is 57 according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/57_(number)#In_mathematics

Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by kubanczyk on Friday June 11, 2021 @09:29AM (#27473031)
True, 51 is "exmadscientist prime".

<boldly updates wikipedia>

Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by exmadscientist on Saturday June 12, 2021 @04:24AM (#27482709)
...I'll take it.

But, hey, I probably won't make that mistake again. Probably.

Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by admissionsguy on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:07AM (#27471708)
> Ironically enough, "someone who likes math but hates arithmetic" isn't a self-contradictory thing.

I didn't even realise anyone would expect there to be a relationship between "liking" arithmetic and actual mathematics. I worked with mathematicians and was called one myself (it was a stretch, I think) but I have no idea who in the lab was or was not proficient in doing numeric calculations by hand. It was just not relevant. There was one guy though who liked to show off doing things like multiplying long numbers in his head, which was amusing.

It would suck to lack the ability to manipulate algebraic expressions efficiently, but you could go quite far without it in many branches. My most interesting results were identifying certain topological features of certain discrete structures of relevance to biology. There was no arithmetic or algebra involved at all except to write down the results formally.

Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by TchoBeer on Friday June 11, 2021 @09:12AM (#27472832)
I was in a bit of a weird half-rate math competion team/club where some people who were there to get out of history class and some people who were very much the opposite and were some of the smartest people I've ever talked to. One thing I noticed is that all the power competitors had good calculation ability, but whereas some people were just really fast calculators and, like your lab friend, could calculate huge multiples in their head, others were actually subpar at that type of mental math and instead were just familiar with, for instance, all the perfect squares/cubes/powers of 5 up to 20 and beyond because they've just encountered them a lot.
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by bawolff on Friday June 11, 2021 @02:58AM (#27470151)
When i was in university i did a math minor. I definitely remember the people who were math majors tended to be fairly bad at simple arithmatic (or at least just very average)
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by boblivion on Friday June 11, 2021 @03:41AM (#27470402)
Which may be because you simply can't do everything good without practice and in pure math, well, there are things you don't do as much. When I go back to the 3rd and 4th degree polynoms we solved back in school, it's a hassle. Back then I was quite good at solving them but nowadays it just takes time to get accustomed to these kind of problems.
Re:Calculus for Seven Year Olds [pdf] by parenthesis on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:30AM (#27471871)
"A number less than 100 is prime if it sounds prime, and isn't 51 or 91."

(To me, 57 is too obviously 3 less than the obviously-divisible-by-3 60.)