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Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by hellisothers on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @03:51PM (#27452302)
Seems pretty disingenuous given they had to have known this would happen (note that OnlyFans has no app)
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by distribot on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:06PM (#27452453)
OnlyFans wouldn't be allowed in the App Store since it is essentially pornography. I am curious if they would given the chance, but they can't
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by vbezhenar on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:16PM (#27452597)
Reddit allows pornography in the app if you've chosen NSFW setting. How OnlyFans is different?
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Aerroon on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:25PM (#27452726)
Because Reddit is old and big. Banning it would piss off lots of people.

It's the same reason why Chrome, Safari, Firefox etc can get away with it, despite clearly having accessible NSFW content.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by symlinkk on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:45PM (#27454308)
This is the real reason. Notice that there’s no real 4chan app on the App Store, even though it has both SFW and NSFW boards, just like Reddit. Apple will bend their own rules depending on who they’re applying them to, they have zero integrity.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by azinman2 on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:26PM (#27452749)
Primary purpose. You can build a web browser that can load porn, but that’s not the raison d’etre of a web browser. Similarly Reddit is far more not porn than porn.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by threatofrain on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:26PM (#27452742)
The risk of a porn story and counter-narratives of non-porn utility. Shipping and trucking has a risk of a trafficking story, but it has much weightier counter-narratives of salient utility.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by querulous on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:49PM (#27454342)
reddit would likely get rejected by the app in today's enforcement environment. discord was recently forced to disable nsfw channels in the ios client
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by t-writescode on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:20PM (#27452659)
Number of users

Loudness of users

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Jcowell on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:44PM (#27452997)
This makes me curious is Onlyfans has a PWA. Really wish more websites did this going to go check right now.

Can confirm it does. Functions just like a normal app (user side) and since it doenst have any offline features there’s not any friction I can see a see as user.

I wonder if there’s a way for Safari to display a Add to Home Screen Option App Banner.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by beckler on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @03:57PM (#27452363)
Then why do Venmo and CashApp get a pass? Is Fanhouse trying to leverage Apple’s Payment APIs without paying or something?
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by smnrchrds on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:04PM (#27452441)
> Then why do Venmo and CashApp get a pass?

Don't give Apple any ideas. Next thing you know, they start charging you 30% of each transaction and are working on a way to send you an invoice for 30% of any transactions you do in real life.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by hellisothers on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @03:58PM (#27452375)
Those apps are not distributing content, I haven’t installed Fanhouse but from looking at their website it seems that you can consume the content you’re paying for through it.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Hamuko on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:00PM (#27452400)
So Netflix?
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by hellisothers on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:09PM (#27452500)
It’s a subscription service and you’re not paying for individual content a-la-cart? We can play wack a mole all day and find special carve outs by Apple but “what about-ism” isn’t the (or their) point, it’s did they expect this to happen or not. Surely they knew at some point the tax man would come with absolute certainty so crying (hyperbolic) foul now is… disingenuous.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Hamuko on Thursday June 10, 2021 @12:08AM (#27456561)
They're both subscription services. One's just "too big to fail".
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by tshaddox on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:23PM (#27452693)
I’m pretty sure Netflix and other streaming services give 30% to Apple if you buy the subscription through Apple. Don’t they?
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Jcowell on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:46PM (#27453022)
No they don’t since they don’t give the option. It sucks that Apple isn’t giving them the option to just not allow In-app purchases at all when there’s Patreon.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by twostorytower on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:52PM (#27453078)
They don't allow you to sign up in the app. You have to sign-up and subscribe via the web. App is login only.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by tshaddox on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @08:43PM (#27455376)
Indeed, I stand corrected. I would swear that they previously allowed you to subscribe with an in-app purchase. Disney+ does still offer an Apple in-app subscription.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Hamuko on Thursday June 10, 2021 @08:47AM (#27460046)
It hasn't been possible for about 2.5 years now.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by allenu on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:26PM (#27452747)
Yeah, it's not like they put together this entire business and then afterwards realized they'd have to pony up money to Apple. If they didn't know up front, that's not great business planning.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by alpacaillama on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @05:52PM (#27453744)
I think this might be a part of their strategy. Do a well timer PR push.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by falcolas on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @03:57PM (#27452359)
Makes for a great soundbite though. "We had no idea going in that stepping in front of this bus would hurt us."
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Dah00n on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:02PM (#27453851)
"Amazon and Patreon doesn't get hit with a 30% tax. Why do we?" would be less disingenuous.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by falcolas on Thursday June 10, 2021 @02:51PM (#27464145)
Amazon (Kindle) and Patreon don't offer purchasing in their apps, exactly so they aren't charged 30%.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by ThePowerOfFuet on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:15PM (#27452572)
OnlyFans has no app because of the nature of the content.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by sneak on Thursday June 10, 2021 @01:44PM (#27463373)
They have no app because of the censorship in the app store, not the nature of their content.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by Dracophoenix on Thursday June 10, 2021 @06:09PM (#27466460)
As understandable as that is, what's a good working alternative? Google is no different and is becoming more Apple-like in its approach to software distribution. Admittedly, iPhones and Pixels provide a cruftless mobile experience. But I'd rather have an option that didn't require an ever-shortening leash or put on pretensions of concern for consumers or developers (privacy, censorship, et al.) while simultaneously shortchanging them.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by stalfosknight on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:18PM (#27452624)
This is exactly what I'm thinking.

I'm kind of exasperated with all of these apps / developers who know what they're getting into when they create developer accounts with Apple, go through all of the hard work and expense of developing apps for the App Store only to whine and tweet histrionics about how they don't like the rules after the fact.

If you want total freedom to do whatever the hell you want, there's a platform for that called Android or Windows.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by taylodl on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:35PM (#27452869)
Hey! Don't forget about Linux! :)