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Re:Language learning with Netflix by ant6n on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:19AM (#27434135)
Basically, only English has a tradition where in closed captions, the spoken word matches the text. In many other languages, even for original content, even for subtitles that are a hearing aid, the text often won’t match. For example in French.

I guess the desire is to shorten the text to make it easier to read in time, but it’s kind of ironic that it’s called „subtitles for the ones with bad hearing“. Non-matching subtitles are not a hearing aid, but a hearing replacement.

Re:Language learning with Netflix by shkkmo on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @12:33PM (#27437417)
I've only ever seen this when something was dubbed, not when the original content language matches the subtitle language. Do you have any examples?
Re:Language learning with Netflix by ant6n on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @07:03PM (#27442215)
In Frech, Dubbed content is what one often used for learning, because it’s content one already knows (for example I always wanted to use star trek shows for learning frech cuz i know them in and out, but can’t find a dub with matching subs).

Then again, on Netflix even some of the original language content has shortened subtitles.

I have never found Asterix (the animated movies) with proper closed captioning.

Re:Language learning with Netflix by shkkmo on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:36PM (#27442886)
The LLwN catalogue of good subbed French content does list an Astrix movie, perhaps that one does have good subs?

https://languagelearningwithnetflix.com/catalogue.html#langu...

Re:Language learning with Netflix by kaesar14 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:45AM (#27434394)
I can’t believe that - subtitles don’t match the spoken word outside of English? Isn’t that extremely jarring if it’s the same language?
Re:Language learning with Netflix by mongol on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @04:11PM (#27440131)
I think it is because the speed which subtitles need to be shown at if it would be word for word. It would be too fast for many viewers. Usually (I am talking from a Swedish context), they are a 60-75% summary of what is being said.
Re:Language learning with Netflix by charrondev on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @01:10PM (#27437914)
Super common in French, and was a big hurdle in learning the language through movies/ TV.

I don’t want to put English subtitles, but sometimes I have trouble with accents. My best guess why would be that they are translated independently and at different times by different people. Some shows almost every single line is different.

Re:Language learning with Netflix by ant6n on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:09AM (#27434654)
Yes