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Re:Dragon Go Server by thanhhaimai on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:38PM (#27346943)
I'd strongly recommend OGS if you would like to play Go online (no affiliation,just a happy user). https://online-go.com/

r/baduk also has some good resource for learning more about Go :)

Re:Dragon Go Server by faitswulff on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:39PM (#27346949)
Is this the lichess of the Go world?
Re:Dragon Go Server by 613style on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:42PM (#27346965)
Sort of. OGS is the Lichess of the English-speaking world certainly. There are several much larger servers if you speak Korean/Japanese/Chinese, but they also have less in common with Lichess.
Re:Dragon Go Server by Tomte on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:46PM (#27346999)
Back when I was playing, KGS was where everybody was playing. What happened? Just normal competition?
Re:Dragon Go Server by beermonster on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:58PM (#27347118)
KGS is still going but still Java client only?

These days there are lots of great alternatives :

OGS, Fox, Tygem, Panda Net to name but a few.

All of them have their pros and cons but OGS is great for western players.

Also can highly recommend lifein19x19.com

Re:Dragon Go Server by apetresc on Monday May 31, 2021 @03:09PM (#27347216)
Small correction: KGS is no longer Java-client-only. The protocol was opened up a few years ago and there are several web-based clients now, most notably https://shin.gokgs.com/

Also thank you for the lifein19x19.com shoutout :)

Re:Dragon Go Server by ameminator on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:57PM (#27347110)
Yup, KGS is dying a slow death and was turned over to the American Go Association to be managed. KGS Plus is free now, which is a nice Plus, I suppose.
Re:Dragon Go Server by 613style on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:56PM (#27347106)
KGS is still huge, but OGS has been consistently adding feature after feature for years. At some point, my impression is that most English people just realized it has a nicer interface and better analysis and cheat-detecting tools. The main downside is a lack of high-dan players.

(I don't have data to back this up, just my experience as a roughly 1-dan player who hangs out with a lot of U.S. Go folks)

Re:Dragon Go Server by ameminator on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:58PM (#27347121)
In my experience, KGS is nowhere near as popular as it used to be, sadly. Tournaments dried up, player base dwindled and it's not the same
Re:Dragon Go Server by tinco on Monday May 31, 2021 @04:11PM (#27347654)
How do you cheat at Go? The only thing I can think of is cheating by self-playing thus gaining illegitimate rank?
Re:Dragon Go Server by 613style on Monday May 31, 2021 @04:31PM (#27347797)
Just like with chess, when AI engines got very strong a few years ago, people started using them to find superhuman moves and win games. Now OGS will tell you how similar your game's moves are to what a computer would have played. Even professionals don't get above something like 75-80%, but I've lost a dozen games to people getting 95%+ on that metric.
Re:Dragon Go Server by beermonster on Monday May 31, 2021 @04:28PM (#27347763)
You could cheat in many ways.

One way might be to use a Go engine to analyse the best moves for you as you play. Even for non online play this is already a problem with Chess games and hidden smartphones. Everyone has a 9d bot at their disposal these days. And of course one could make use of cloud TensorFlow if that’s not enough.

There are ways of detecting cheating.

Re:Dragon Go Server by reblws on Monday May 31, 2021 @04:20PM (#27347721)
Main way is using an AI to tell you what the next best move is.
Re:Dragon Go Server by BerSerKer on Monday May 31, 2021 @05:26PM (#27348147)
Would you mind giving examples of these much larger servers? Japanese, preferably...
Re:Dragon Go Server by loarabia on Monday May 31, 2021 @06:30PM (#27348775)
For Japanese go server, I'd suggest IGS aka PandaNet.

It's hard to say how much larger it is than OGS. OGS has an enormous population of correspondence players but generally smaller for live play maybe by 3x?

Re:Dragon Go Server by gabereiser on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @12:31AM (#27350749)
I would also highly recommend PandaNet. They have some really tough players.