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Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by k__ on Saturday May 29, 2021 @07:24AM (#27324531)
Guess, it's like Twitter. If you follow the right people you get good content.

The only thing bothering me on LinkedIn are the recruiters and that got much better in the last years.

Most of the time I use it to stay in touch with old co-workers and to syndicate my articles, which sometimes (2-5 times a year) leads to new clients.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by throwaway894345 on Saturday May 29, 2021 @07:33AM (#27324573)
You can indeed curate, but I definitely get the vibe that cringe is the default mode on LinkedIn (which is still strictly better than Twitter’s default mode, toxicity).
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by whateveracct on Saturday May 29, 2021 @06:37PM (#27328808)
Curating LinkedIn is like curating the contents of my cats' litterbox.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by takkiinvincible on Saturday May 29, 2021 @08:08AM (#27324728)
What would a better social media platform look like in your opinion?
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by throwaway894345 on Saturday May 29, 2021 @08:23AM (#27324800)
In two words: “thoughtful” and “good-faith”. Content should be interesting and thoughtful rather than optimizing for clicks (obviously this isn’t compatible with an ad-based model). Dialog should be civil, charitable, kind, etc and strong norms for objectivity and neutrality. Low tolerance for overt ideological advocacy, authoritarian rhetoric, flame baiting, etc.

That’s “what it should look like”. To get there, I expect it’s “establish the right norms from the start and incentivize the right content and behaviors along the way”. To monetize, I don’t know and I don’t especially care.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by OminousWeapons on Saturday May 29, 2021 @11:41AM (#27325955)
Off the top of my head, it would have the tone of Facebook before they allowed public accounts outside of schools and right after they introduced news feed, it would be aggressively moderated, and it would cost enough money per month that people would think twice before engaging in a behavior that led to an account getting banned or using bots. There would be an initial setup fee of at least $100 along with a monthly subscription fee, and getting an account banned would result in a total loss of your payments and deletion of your profile.

* Users would explicitly agree that their profile posts are subject to moderation.

* Profiles would be private and users would be heavily discouraged from using a real name. Friending someone else would require an out of band secret key exchange. A new key would be required to add each person to a group and the entire group would be informed when a new user was added. The only people with real visibility would be the mods.

* There would be no advertising or tracking.

* The service would be located in a country that doesn't immediately bend over for Five Eyes, China, or Russia.

* There would be no org pages or corp accounts.

* Anyone holding public office, running for public office, or affiliated with a political campaign would be explicitly banned from using it at the EULA level. Group pages with more than X members would automatically be flagged for periodic review, and obvious attempts at political organizing for a campaign or movement such as BLM or the Proud Boys (chosen purely as examples of political movements) would result in a ban for all affiliated accounts.

* Egregious (as in obviously intentionally hostile rather than ignorant or inadvertent) racism, sexism, bigotry, etc would result in a ban.

* Any attempt at bullying would result in an immediate ban.

* Any attempt at bulk data collection would result in your account being suspended and flagged for review.

You get the idea. Social networks should be about sharing fun content with your real life social network. They should not be about self promotion, BS drama, politics, disinformation campaigns, advertising, influencing, branding, etc.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by eru on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:08PM (#27326153)
Interesting ideas.

> Any attempt at bullying would result in an immediate ban.

Alas, that turns accusations of bullying into pretty effective bullying.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by OminousWeapons on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:27PM (#27326288)
Yeah, I should have said any accusations of bullying would be reviewed by mods.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by Retric on Saturday May 29, 2021 @09:55AM (#27325231)
Hacker News.

But for simplicity, moderation and downvote buttons would do a world of good.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by ta988 on Saturday May 29, 2021 @10:18AM (#27325399)
I don't think it would work on a platform on which people can organize to bully. That's an advantage of HN, it is hard to build such a community because of the lack of communication between users out of topics.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by andrey_utkin on Saturday May 29, 2021 @11:22AM (#27325814)
Nothing prevents hn users from getting to know each other and communicate.

I attribute lack of evident destructive mobbing on hn to adequate moderation workforce.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by eru on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:10PM (#27326160)
> Nothing prevents [...]

Oh, the power of small inconveniences.

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by satisfice on Sunday May 30, 2021 @07:21AM (#27332424)
I pretty much don’t use unmoderated forums. (he said, on an unmoderated forum) But on any forum, the rotting stench of money draws many flies. That’s a lot of the problem.

BYW, how much do I get for posting this valuable wisdom?

Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by mola on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:24PM (#27326255)
A rolodex
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by dkdk8283 on Saturday May 29, 2021 @10:49AM (#27325599)
Real life.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by k__ on Saturday May 29, 2021 @07:39AM (#27324599)
Maybe, social media curation is a skill that not many people posess.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by vlunkr on Saturday May 29, 2021 @11:13AM (#27325754)
Maybe curating LinkedIn is a skill that not many people desire to possess. I have an account because it's expected when you're looking for a job. I'm not interested in articles about business or whatever the good content on LinkedIn is supposed to be.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by throwaway894345 on Saturday May 29, 2021 @07:48AM (#27324644)
The default mode is unrelated to curation. Curation allows you to opt into a different mode, but it doesn’t change the default mode.
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by ghaff on Saturday May 29, 2021 @09:10AM (#27325000)
I find it pretty easy to skip past the recruiters and connection requests when I pop in from time to time. I just generally ignore all the random recruiter request that are way off target. (Though, in all fairness, my LinkedIn profile is very scanty.) And I'll rarely respond--usually with a polite no--to on-target ones given that I'm not really on the market. (And have never gotten a job since grad school decades ago that wasn't a personal contact.)
Re:Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn by umeshunni on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:15PM (#27326197)
Even if you’re only connected with your acquaintances, the algorithm ensures that many of the posts your connections like or comment on will show up in your newsfeed.

That's the bane of social media platforms where engagement is low (Twitter suffers from this too). There are very few content creators, and especial on a professional network, there isn't enough content generated to share daily, so to generate content, the platform needs to dig deeper into the bottom of the barrel and show you second-level engagement (ie friend of yours commented or liked some rando's content).