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Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by SECProto on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:18PM (#27240087)
Cars&trucks cause a large majority of the pedestrians killed in walking-around-the-city accidents, though. Lumping those deaths in with highway deaths makes the statistic meaningless.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by jessriedel on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:26PM (#27242299)
No. That would only be potentially true if people were proposing a law to limit the form factor of trucks that are driven in cities (and even if so, it would not be obvious; you'd have to look at the numbers). Since that isn't feasible, and all the proposed laws are about limiting the form factor of all consumer trucks, the average statics are the relevant ones.

You can always find a subpopulation where some effect is large; that can't be good reason to make rules that constrain the entire population.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by SECProto on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:16PM (#27242663)
Observation: bigger and heavier vehicles are safer for their occupants in any impact.

Regulation: cars should be safer

Impact: All vehicles continuously increase in size and weight year on year, decreasing the safety of older vehicles and non-vehicular road users

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by jessriedel on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:19PM (#27242690)
You have not responded to my rebuttal to what you said, you're just bringing up a different argument.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by SECProto on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:58PM (#27242942)
Sure, I don't actually know what your argument is to rebut? I know many people who would like to buy a ford ranger sized truck, but manufacturers discontinued them a decade ago because fuel efficiency regulations disincentivized them.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by taneq on Friday May 21, 2021 @06:09PM (#27240593)
Not if saving 5k pedestrians kills 10k highway drivers. (Numbers made up, I’m just saying you have to consider them.)
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by Chico75 on Friday May 21, 2021 @06:42PM (#27240874)
Why would design changes that improve visiblity to avoid killing pedestrians end up killing more highway drivers?
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by ttyprintk on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:00PM (#27242550)
From other threads, one might conclude that animal accidents in rural areas inspire some apprehension about wedge-profiled designs. In USA, 1m out of the 6m auto accidents each year involve one car and one animal, with a human death rate of 200 per year.