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Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by JeremyNT on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:22PM (#27237009)
> I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore

You're not kidding! I was in the market for a small pickup and checked out the Tacoma and Frontier, which I previously understood to be "small" trucks. They're massive these days, just like the F-150! I guess it's perceived that there's no market for that size any more.

A small electric pickup would be a super handy thing to have around, potentially appealing to urbanites too since they can toss their groceries in the frunk. There's really no reason the frunk needs to be so big on the F-150 Lightning - that part of the design is really a head scratcher.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:51PM (#27238268)
Trucks, vans, suvs are the size they are, at least in part a due to CAFE regulations that give fuel efficiency concessions to vehicles with a larger wheelbase.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_econo...

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Ford did a lot of internal research, and focus groups, on the marketability of differently designed electric trucks to their primary customers and came to the conclusion that their consumers like the way the trucks look and are more likely to adopt electric trucks if they look the same and offer tangible benefits. Consider the massive frunk, that can hold 400 pounds of gear, or the 2k hauling capacity, or the on board outlets, including a 240v plug, or all the fancy new towing features (that are hopefully not useless vapor ware). If I was in charge of a large truck work truck fleet that averages less than 200 miles/day I'd be replacing at least a few of my oldest trucks with these and give them to the senior guys to break in and see how they do. This truck could be a serious game changer. Ford's not my favorite vehicle manufacturer but they've got my respect for building a serious electric truck at a reasonable price.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by bostonvaulter2 on Friday May 21, 2021 @07:49PM (#27241442)
I wonder if there are hidden systematic considerations that make it so that trucks the size of Japanese mini trucks simply appear to not exist in the united states. Here's the first DDG link about these trucks: https://jpnautoimport.com/mini-truck%EF%BC%86jdm
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by burnt_toast on Friday May 21, 2021 @07:58PM (#27241535)
From what little I know, I believe it's related to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by throwaway2037 on Saturday May 22, 2021 @02:52AM (#27244173)
Crash test safety is the answer.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by earth_walker on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:33PM (#27242344)
What we need is an electric Subaru Brat.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by bratcomplex on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:05PM (#27242591)
Funny, I’m building just that! https://www.instagram.com/bratindustries/
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by earth_walker on Saturday May 22, 2021 @07:46PM (#27251246)
That's what I love about HN. Make anything up, and someone's done it and posted pics. It's like being able to wish things into existence just by posting a forum comment.

Next: Cold fusion jet pack!

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by gilbetron on Saturday May 22, 2021 @05:57PM (#27250632)
That is awesome.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by giarc on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:51PM (#27237450)
The new Ford Ranger is a smaller size, but it's perhaps the worst looking truck available. I'm not sure what Ford was thinking there.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by birdman3131 on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:30PM (#27240208)
The new ranger is the size of my 99 F150. I have an 01 ranger that is way smaller.

The only thing the same is the name.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by annoyingnoob on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:00PM (#27238417)
Still much bigger than the Rangers of years past.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by sswezey on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:05PM (#27239964)
Indeed. I think the defining feature of a small pickup is the ability of an averaged height person to be able to reach over the sides and grab something from the bed of the truck. All of the current trucks on the market you can barely even see in to the bed. It makes it super hard to load the bed without actually being in it. Trucks today have become so much more vanity symbols than anything else.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by twiddling on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:53PM (#27240439)
This. I had an old VW pickup which was a charm to use for my small business. Could also park it in tight spots too.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by axaxs on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:31PM (#27240218)
Agreed on looks - I actually declined buying one because of that.

That said, I really wish they would have started there. I want an electric truck. I don't want one anywhere near as large as an F150. I understand F150s sell better so know why they went that route, but an electric Ranger/Colorado could really dominate the fleet market.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by giarc on Monday May 24, 2021 @11:11PM (#27272230)
Maybe GM will see as an opportunity to electrify the Colorado instead of the Silverado (unless there are already public plans to do so).
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by scoopertrooper on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:01PM (#27241564)
I don't know much about trucks, but I looked up both on the Ford website. The Ranger's front area is slightly curved while it is flat on the F-150. Aside from that, the trucks look identical to my novice eyes. I can't say I find either particularly appealing.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by giarc on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @12:16PM (#27278723)
They look quite a bit different in person. The Ford Ranger has a very muted look where as most trucks these days have an agressive look. It looks like it was designed not to be noticed.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by Scarbutt on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:20PM (#27240107)
You should have look at the Toyota Hilux, not Tacoma.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:45PM (#27240364)
I don't think those have been sold in the US for over 30 years. I miss mine.