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Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by DangitBobby on Friday May 21, 2021 @12:51PM (#27236542)
I'm actually the opposite here, I love being asked to help people. I feel that it strengthens my relationships with them and makes me feel important.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by lotsofpulp on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:24PM (#27237033)
Some people count on that to take advantage of you. One of the easiest strategies is to start asking for small favors, and then move on to bigger ones. Because the person has already granted you a small favor, it’s harder for many to say no to the bigger ones even if they want to.

But if it makes you happy, I guess that’s all that matters!

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by Andrex on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:39PM (#27237249)
That sounds like the natural progression of a relationship/friendship to me. I'd ask my better-known friends larger tasks than people I don't know as well, too.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by lotsofpulp on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:47PM (#27237375)
Yes, of course, if it’s a two way relationship. But I’ve seen plenty where the “mark” is unaware or cognitively dissonant that they are being taken advantage of.

Initially, they take pride in being able to help someone, but eventually they’re giving much more than taking, and they cannot bring themselves to say no, whether it be to keep themselves happy because “if I’ve helped them before, why should I not help them now…even though I don’t really want to”, or to avoid confrontation.

Pride is always a liability, so I like to try to keep away from it as much as possible.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by ncallaway on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:40PM (#27238931)
> Pride is always a liability

That statement seems so broad that it can't possible be true in every circumstance. Always?

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by lotsofpulp on Friday May 21, 2021 @04:29PM (#27239535)
The saying is “pride comes before the fall”.

It is more of a general principle of keeping one’s emotions at bay to prevent your biases from clouding the data and your judgment.

I am sure there are evolutionary reasons for pride (i.e. ego) such as helping you fight with intensity for scarce resources or for maintaining tribal bonds. But in the modern world, it those circumstances are rarer and someone can use it against you pretty easily.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by ncallaway on Friday May 21, 2021 @06:41PM (#27240860)
I agree that pride _can_ be a liability. The idiom “pride comes before the fall” itself doesn’t imply that pride is _always_ bad, but rather that it has the potential to be bad.

I think pride has all kinds of positive and negative features in the modern world. When I take pride in my work, I think about it more carefully and try and deliver a higher quality work. “Pride” and “Craftsmanship” seem very linked to me. That pride helps me deliver high quality work, which keeps clients around and earns referrals, which keeps me paid and food on the table.

When I don’t take pride in the work I do, the standards and quality can slip. I’m much happier if I can deliver work to a client that I can stand behind and be proud of. I think that’s in many ways an asset.

I certainly don’t disagree with you, though, that there are many scenarios where pride , hubris, and ego end up being problematic.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by lotsofpulp on Friday May 21, 2021 @07:14PM (#27241109)
You make a good point, I guess it’s not an easy one liner!
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by DangitBobby on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:44PM (#27238173)
I'm not particularly worried about being taken advantage of. "No" is a well-established part of my vocabulary.
Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by munificent on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:24PM (#27237027)
My too. This is literally why I bought a pick-up truck 20 years ago. (Which I still drive today. The Tacoma will outlive me.)

I love it myself. I've moved with it, carried music equipment to gigs with it, brought home countless DIY projects from the hardware store with it, and even camped in the back of it. But I also have done many many favors for friends.

Re:2022 Ford F-150 Lightning by lostlogin on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:52PM (#27238286)
Ah, the privilege escalation attack.