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Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by fmajid on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:12AM (#27219355)
Look how much hay Mussolini made from running the trains on time (which wasn't even the case, they just padded the schedule).
Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by mschuster91 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:46AM (#27219534)
> which wasn't even the case, they just padded the schedule

Well, if I'm a company using rail for freight or a worker depending on the rail to get to work, it already is a massive improvement if I can at least rely on the train being where it should be at the announced time. Improving the schedule for faster travel or shorter intervals is another thing, but predictability alone makes my life easier.

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by bluGill on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:27AM (#27220825)
Both are important, but for different things. If the trip time is too long nobody will take the train. If the train isn't predictable nobody will take the train. You get a bit of leeway in different situations though. The longer the trip the less either matters because what else can you do? If you are only going a few meters it needs to be here now (whenever now is - on time in 1 minute is too late!), and it only needs to be faster than walking that distance. In between you get some ability to do things.

In the Swiss case on time is critical because they want people to depend on their next train being there when they get there. They assume most people will get off one train and get on another (or a bus) so they all meet in the same place at the same time. Early does nothing for anyone unless the bus/train they are meeting is early and leaves early. This is one good way to run a system. The other is run so many trains/buses that whenever you arrive there is another waiting for you that will leave as soon as you can get on. This second way to run a system is much faster and better for everyone - but the costs are significantly higher though and so nobody can afford to run a large system that way. (large cities often can run this way and should where they can). Note that system is the key word here. If you only have one train the considerations are different.

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by Digit-Al on Thursday May 20, 2021 @12:13PM (#27223050)
Too right. It's always frustrating if your train is 2-3 minutes late and just as you step off the train you see your connecting train leaving its platform and know you now have a 20 minute wait for the next one. The could definitely do with a bit more padding for those situations.

Thankfully I don't have to take the train very often - especially these days lol

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by bregma on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:14AM (#27219684)
What really happened is the trains continued to run the same way they always had, but the Ministry of Propaganda said they were running on time and people believed them. It sounds cynical, but that's only because it worked.

Perhaps also because it's still working.

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by disabled on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:58AM (#27219594)
LOL Switzerland (i.e. extremely punctual society) actually does this with their rail system. There is a time buffer in the rail schedule for each of the stops. If a train is running late, and is /expected/ to be late, according to the estimated time of arrival, the train adjusts its speed, going faster, to arrive at the originally planned scheduled time. Failures on the rail system are of course rare.
Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by ceejayoz on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:22AM (#27219731)
If they're way late, they'll skip stops too, so they don't ruin the schedule for the whole network for the day.

A few people in one town having to wait an extra 20 minutes ensures hundreds of thousands have a predictably on-time system.

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by secretsatan on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:32AM (#27219789)
Late at night, if one of the regional trains is late to a local hub, the local trains wait for it to arrive so you're not stuck getting home.

In general though, I'm so used to the trains being on time, I start tutting if it's even a minute late

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by ceejayoz on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:58AM (#27220013)
Yeah, my last visit to Switzerland they announced one of the trains would be three minutes late and apologized for the inconvenience.

Meanwhile, I've arrived in NYC fourteen hours late on Amtrak.

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by KptMarchewa on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:54AM (#27221123)
I think all rail systems have some small buffers build in.

On the polish site which tracks punctuality of trains, you can often see train delayed for some time, which decreases delay by every stop, eventually ending with smaller delay or on time.

http://infopasazer.intercity.pl

Re:UK Rail services to come under unified state control by oblio on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:59AM (#27220018)
That's just good planning.