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Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by kwanbix on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @06:43AM (#27206806)
So, is it too crazy to think that prisoners need to pay for the accommodation, food, electricity, water, etc. that they receive while being in prison?
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by Ekaros on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @07:05AM (#27206971)
I find that bit crazy. It is local society's wish to imprison them, and thus deprive them from opportunity to earn money to pay those things on open market. Thus it should be up to them to provide them with that, that is if they want them to be imprisoned. They could just let them go free, or excommunicate them...
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by dandellion on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @07:29AM (#27207138)
That's a weird thing to say. Do people in the US go around wishing prison for others? Here it's more like society is cornered into imprisoning some people in self-defense, because it hasn't figured out how to get those individuals to collaborate and live cordially with others.
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @09:25AM (#27208223)
>Do people in the US go around wishing prison for others?

Yes.

Lock her "Hillary Clinton" up, and lock him "Donald trump" up are very real wishes of many Americans. The war on drugs, poverty, and in general garbage tvlike live pd, Jerry Springer, dr Phil, has helped to breed this retributional bent into American culture.

Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by gbear605 on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @09:14AM (#27208107)
Ah yes, I really hate it when we have to put people in jail to protect ourselves from checks notes them smoking a joint.
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by kwanbix on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @08:11AM (#27207478)
Society don't "wish to imprison them" they go to prison to pay for a debt with society. Society wishes that nobody committed crimes so there where no prisons. At least I believe so.
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @09:22AM (#27208181)
It is societies responsibility to nurture law abiding citizens. Thus, criminals are societies burden to bear, for the unimprisoneds failings.
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by kwanbix on Thursday May 20, 2021 @03:47AM (#27218516)
Really? I thought it was the parents responsibility. Of course schools have a part on it, but "society"? How would you do that? Please elaborate.
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Thursday May 20, 2021 @12:12PM (#27223033)
"It takes a village to raise a child" -African proverb

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_a_village

>"Many adults who have experienced disrupted or deficient attachments when young will, from whatever source, find sufficient resilience to grow into well-balanced adults."

We, all off us as society, have a role to play in ensuring that all people are sufficiently resilient. Furthermore, to breed this resiliency we must all occasionally make sacrifices so that those with great need do not suffer neglect.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247755669_Using_att...

For a practical discussion we can look at community crime prevention.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Crime_Prevention

Ultimately, we can pay for success on the front end (prevention) or failure on the back end (imprisonment).

>"The sooner at-risk students are identified, the more likely that preventative "remediation" measures will be effective."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-risk_students

Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by Aunche on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @08:11AM (#27207475)
I agree that it makes sense for these costs to be factored into a prisoner's pay, since everyone else needs to pay these expenses. That might make a case for someone being paid $3 a hour, not 30 cents an hour. Also, in this case, the savings are passed to private businesses rather than the taxpayers.
Re:How corporations buy and food made with prison labor by kwanbix on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @08:24AM (#27207598)
The savings part you are right. They should go back to the taxpayers or ONGs.