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Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by herbst on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:25AM (#27151339)
Our Swiss virus guy too told this 'lie' in the beginning, a few months later he explained that this was wrong and the only reason he said masks are not necessary was because there weren't enough and private people were already stockpiling it anyway.

So people wore masks and life went on.

I still don't understand why sooooo many countries can't be more honest about these things

Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by paganel on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:32AM (#27151379)
> I still don't understand why so many countries can't be more honest about these things

Depending on the jurisdiction and on your political opponents what the Swiss virus guy did is liable to send you to prison for intentionally lying and acting on that lie when employed as a public servant.

Most probably the political debate is less vicious in Switzerland and that won't happen to your virus guy, but where I live (EU country from Eastern Europe) that would have been very dangerous for him to do in regards to his freedom. I guess that's why a lot of politicians double down on their lies, because if they're caught there's a small chance of them going to prison for them, so why take the risk?

Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by herbst on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:44AM (#27151463)
Interesting point. Guess it comes down to his words as the initial wording was more like 'in the current situation it is not necessary to wear masks' not trump's vision of 'masks don't work' which would have been an obvious lie.
Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by johnchristopher on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:53AM (#27151839)
In Belgium we had a third version: "masks are dangerous because people don't know how to adjust and wear them, they touch them too much (spreading the virus) and masks give a false sense of security that will lead to more contagions".

The chief of our CDC equivalent said he was shopping in supermarket without mask.

Then they admitted saying that because stocks were too low and wearing a mask was gradually made mandatory and they told us to make our own masks.

Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by johnchristopher on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:19AM (#27151656)
In Belgium, basically the same thing happened but at the same time they also said covid was just a flu.

So, a lot of trust lost.

Now I suspect them to do the same with the astrazeneca stock they have to liquidate.

Headlines this week said the indian variant is going to be the major one in Belgium.

Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by CorrectHorseBat on Friday May 14, 2021 @04:02AM (#27151896)
IIRC that was not exactly how it happened. They said masks are not necessary if you only meet outside and keep your 1.5m distance. Leave the FFP masks for those who really need it. source from February 2020: https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200225_04864971
Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by sharken on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:36AM (#27151754)
In Denmark there were news stories about the real name of the AZ vaccine, just about the same time the bloodclot issue appeared.

I don't know anyone who uses the name Vaxzevria instead of the Astra Zeneca vaccine or just AZ.

The UK is about to open up fully in June but is now worried about the Indian variant (B.1.617).

Even though we in Denmark back in january was informed by health authorities that the English variant (B.1.1.7) was very worrying.

Truth is there will always be another variant, just look at this overview.

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global

The trust in health authorities have been reduced greatly and have been replaced with mistrust to politicians motives, I'm sad to say.

Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by johnchristopher on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:56AM (#27151860)
Reading our politician's stance their motto seem to be that they didn't want to cause a panic. I always thought democracy strongly needed transparency to be effective so now I am left with questions and a shift in how I see our governing institutions.
Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by gadders on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:05AM (#27152944)
>> Our Swiss virus guy too told this 'lie' in the beginning

>> I still don't understand why sooooo many countries can't be more honest about these things

Interesting definition of honest. The fact is, all these large organisations believe in the "noble lie" which undermines their credibility.

Re:Vaccinated Americans now may go without masks in most pla... by kewrkewm53 on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:36AM (#27151760)
Same thing here in Finland, in early months of the epidemics health officials said wearing masks has no benefit.