Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by willis936 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:58AM
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It is E=MC^2 though. 0.1% of the mass is converted into energy.
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Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by whatshisface on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @11:09AM
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Windup toy cars are also E=mc^2.
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by prewett on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @12:14PM
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E = mc^2 implies that mass (m) is being converted to energy (E), and a windup toy car is definitely not converting mass to energy. Windup cars get their energy from torsional springs, which are E = (1/2) k theta^2.
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by whatshisface on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:05PM
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>and a windup toy car is definitely not converting mass to energy
Ah, but it is. E=mc^2 is always true in the reference frame where the object is stationary. (We assume that we are co-moving with the windup car.) A spring under torsion is heavier than an unwound spring.
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by Chris2048 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @02:18PM
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> A spring under torsion is heavier than an unwound spring
Does it have more (invariant) mass?
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by whatshisface on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @03:45PM
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Yes.
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by varjag on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:09AM
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No, it's E=(0.001M)C^2
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by willis936 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:22AM
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That is absurd. It is E=MC^2 where M is 0.1% of the total mass of the reactants.
100% of the mass difference is converted into energy.
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by varjag on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:48AM
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The GP was talking in relation to W/Kg, and the output per Kg is definitely not e=mc^2. It helps reading things in the context.
Re:Voyager 1 hears the hush of interstellar plasma
by StavrosK on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @10:47AM
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You are correct, though it would help to clarify that you're correcting the GP on the "per kilo" part, and not the "energy" part.
I agree, if you're deploying 1 kg of fissile material, only 0.1% of that will be converted to energy. We should talk about energy per mass of fissile material, not energy per mass of "mass difference".