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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by formerly_proven on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:06AM (#27115465)
> $11k a month [...] Significantly above that salary, even in most of Europe.

lolnope

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by av8avenger on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:18AM (#27115563)
Lol sure. If you get this kind of responsibility anywhere in western Europe in a professional setting, you are getting paid definitely somewhere in that salary region.

The effective amount will of course differ greatly between the countries, but please don't forget that the expenses vary as well. (15k a month in Switzerland isn't as much as 15k a month in Germany)

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by adflux on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:33AM (#27115663)
I'd say around 1 percent of devs make that much... And then Mr tax man will take between 50 and 70 percent
Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by av8avenger on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:20AM (#27116308)
I didn't include all devs. Of course a "normal" developer doesn't make this much. As a lead developer you earn a lot of money here.

I know a couple of senior (non lead) developers who earn this much.

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by rvnx on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:09AM (#27115491)
I like how one user deleted his comment saying even in Ukraine or Georgia basic dev earns more than 10k USD/month
Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by iagovar on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:13AM (#27115521)
No way. That must be top tier talent. With 10k USD a month you basically own the town.

You can go very very far with that money in western Europe too. Maybe places like Paris or London may be much more expensive, though.

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by lewispollard on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:44AM (#27115744)
> Maybe places like Paris or London may be much more expensive, though.

Definitely. In my experience (lead dev in the UK), salaries for senior positions in London are at least 1.5-2x the amount elsewhere in the UK - but living costs are also much higher.

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by machiaweliczny on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:16AM (#27116634)
> basic dev earns

Not true, basic junior devs in Poland start even from $15K per year(invoice equivalent without VAT).

Good devs in Ukraine get $50K/year+ but AFAIK they have 5% taxes only. Good = hireable by S&P500 companies for example. Anyway most of them prefer to move to Poland for example due to better government/QoL.

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by iso1631 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:17AM (#27115552)
10k a year perhaps