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Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by ur-whale on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:04PM (#27108930)
> DNS is a vital piece of infrastructure

It is, and therefore it should be 100% decentralized, if only to keep it out of the grabby hands of governments, EU or otherwise.

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by madeofpalk on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:16PM (#27109058)
Is the 12 root server organisations an example of decentralisation?
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by EricE on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:22PM (#27109133)
Yup. As well as the decentralization and diversity of the technical operations of each pool. Operational diversity can be as important or even more important than technical diversity since humans tend to be the weakest links in technical chains :p
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by ur-whale on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:00PM (#27109533)
> Is the 12 root server organisations an example of decentralisation?

It isn't.

Proof: the fact that US random three letter agencies can take down websites.

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by Denvercoder9 on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:41PM (#27109991)
Taking down websites has nothing at all to do with the root servers. The root servers only distribute information about which nameserver is responsible for which TLD, and doesn't concern individual websites at all.
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by _-david-_ on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:31PM (#27109852)
It is impossible to build any website that cannot be taken down. The government could seize the physical servers if they wanted to. By your definition that means nothing is decentralized.
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by Sargos on Monday May 10, 2021 @05:28PM (#27111091)
>It is impossible to build any website that cannot be taken down

This is becoming less true each day, especially with the advent of IPFS and Ethereum. Uniswap's website will never go down. uniswap.org might be seized but uniswap.eth cannot be altered by anyone.

In a few decades it will be normal for websites to be decentralized and permanent. It's actually quite needed for the robustness of critical internet architecture.

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by _-david-_ on Monday May 10, 2021 @07:29PM (#27112212)
I am not sure about IPFS but didn't Ethereum have a 51% attack last year?
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by Sargos on Monday May 10, 2021 @07:50PM (#27112435)
No. You are probably thinking about Ethereum Classic which has been 51% attacked a few times.
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by booleandilemma on Monday May 10, 2021 @04:01PM (#27110218)
This sounds like a problem to solve.
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by _-david-_ on Monday May 10, 2021 @05:12PM (#27110954)
How? Even if you were to host a website on a satellite the government could launch a rocket and blow it up. If the website is hosted on Earth they could physically cut cables if they wanted to. There is no way to fully prevent the government from preventing access to a website. The internet is decentralized, but not fully immune from governments.
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by jrockway on Monday May 10, 2021 @06:03PM (#27111431)
I mean, you can have more than one copy of the website. Maybe a government can send one satellite-destroying missile, but probably not thousands of them.

Think about how many people have the Linux kernel Git repo cloned on their workstation. It would be essentially impossible for any government to destroy all copies.

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by salawat on Monday May 10, 2021 @06:25PM (#27111640)
No it isn't. It's a crutch, but also one of the most centralized, manipulable levers for controlling what is and isn't discoverable on the Net.

Think about it. Domain names are seizable. IP's aren't. You can't stop someone with an IP from existing.

Whenever someone talks about regulating DNS, it should translate to "We want to take control of Namespace management.

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by jonhearty on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:46PM (#27110056)
Handshake.org provides an alternate root zone that seems pretty relevant here
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by theshrike79 on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:52PM (#27109464)
Hear me out: BLOCKCHAIN DNS!

/s

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by Sargos on Monday May 10, 2021 @05:33PM (#27111146)
This ended with /s but DNS and other global namespace management systems are actually one of the problems blockchains solve perfectly. We all need to know what the value of some key->value pair is and have that information always available and easy to update. Blockchains handle data distribution natively, allow updates from authorized parties, and have 100% uptime. Transitioning DNS to something like ENS is something with lots of upsides and few downsides.

Take a look at https://ens.domains/about and https://handshake.org/

Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by twobitshifter on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:07PM (#27109593)
Aaron Swartz (edit) had the same idea http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/squarezooko
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by BugsJustFindMe on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:11PM (#27109623)
There's no ch in Swartz
Re:Dear EU: Please Don't Ruin the Root by watt on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:57PM (#27109509)