DNS roots have worked flawlessly. The EU can just create EU roots and be in control of them and regulate those. Nobody is opposed to that. You can even enforce vendors to only include EU roots when selling devices in the EU (I’m against this personally) or to ISPs (I’m more okay with this). But as a person who loves the EU I’m very much opposed to enforcing EU values and views to 3rd parties.
I’m not at all opposed to the EU trying to regulate companies providing services to their citizens.
If you only regulate providers in the EU it’s a pointless exercise from the start, even if you don’t have a lot of ways to actually enforce your regulations.
Everyone should regulate and audit them. How we do with medical devices, and other stuff. The internet is no unicorn with special treatment.
The last paragraph is right until I think about my EU-WhatsApp trying to make connections in Singapore. They try to protect me as a citizen.
Exactly what problem would this law saw? So far all I am seeing are vaugue assurances and warm feelings but zero substance of how it would improve anything.
Indeed, if history is our guide any change is far more likely to hurt rather than help. Therefore it is incumbent on those seeking the change to defend it - how exactly will this law "improve" things. Please be specific and factual and leave feelings to the poets and philosophers.
Not every jurisdiction in the world is based on extreme fines (like the US) but many are build on strict regulations (like most European countries).
Personally, i cannot speak about the concrete law and nis 2 thingy.
Any software that is used by EU citizens (downloaded from EU App Store or EU vendor website) should use EU DNS servers. (The user should be allowed to change the DNS on per device and per app lvl)
I’d be okay with that. And I think that solves your issue, my issue and EU’s issue.
Another approach is what we do with cars: we don't ban ICE cars, we have different "tiers" (Euro5, Euro6) of emissions and phase them out. We can do the same thing. Any device manufactured after 2020 will need to implement this "feature". It will take a few years to propagate but it is a very feasible approach.
(or maybe I'm not understanding the core problem...)
If you want to ask my server, send me information in the protocol that says that you want me to meet a certain standard and I'll blackhole the request if I can't meet it.
This is how SSL/TLS works and it works well.
Please don't give them ideas. Not even the Kremlin has done that, although they did something similar with geolocation devices.
Otherwise I fully agree. If the EU wants to audit, they should establish their own root server infrastructure, pay for it and audit that. If I was a root server operator providing what is essentially a free service and this was enforced on me, I'd rather shut down or block EU netblocks than be bothered by EU cyber security auditors.
The implementation part will be tricky but not impossible. Heck ipv6 is still not rolled out and we actually need it. Do you think they will be able to do this faster?
As it stands today, I can no longer reliably block hosts by domain name on my own network thanks to DOH.
You should be able to mitm all your own https traffic right? Not sure if that’s worth it though.
I'm not quite clear how that's different from ICANN? Ostensibly they're now "multistakeholder", but were under the United States Department of Commerce until 2016. And were infamously in denial about the GDPR impact to WHOIS.
To be clear, I'm not saying the EU proposal is in any way good, I have no idea. But this issue has been brewing for a while, and I don't think it's unreasonable to be critical of ICANN et al and preparing for eventualities. Even if it is the status quo, leaving a major part of the internet in the hands of some unaccountable NGO is a huge risk.
One way or another, EU will force its way. Should it do it by e.g. empowering DIGIT to run root DNS servers?
They will for sure tender it off to a murky consortium, but at least there will be a positive political move.
Here's an even better and more logical idea - for those who have concerns about the current DNS root server arrangements, what specifically are they? And what would you propose as solutions to their perceived deficiencies? Bonus points if you can raise actual technical arguments and not just feelings.
Rely on a third party like the US which has secret courts and gives a shit about EU citizen privacy, their property or their lifes?
Or give it in the hands of the industry? Which only has one motive: making money.
Or leave it unregulated with no safety for no one?
DNS is about trust. We need trust into this thing. And honestly: i would not trust DNS offered in China and most likely also not the US, or 99% of the carriers