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Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by pjmlp on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:52PM (#27088781)
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by worble on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:43PM (#27089237)
The fact that people just listed 4 competing tools shows exactly why this is a problem:

2 of them are essentially community run, and could theoretically at any time be taken over by a hostile (or even just an incompetant) entity and be used to distribute malware. Not that this couldn't happen through an official channel, but it's certainly far less likely.

Since the software distribution is not even, I currently have to check choco, scoop and winget for updates. It's slow and irritating, and if I need to uninstall or check a package, I need to figure out which tool I installed it with.

The software that does crossover between package managers can cause compatability issues. Just today I accidentally broke Rider since I had the .NET Core runtime installed through choco, but the .NET Core SDK installed through scoop.

I get they're trying to finally fix this through WinGet, but I can't help feel it's too little, too late.

Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by pjmlp on Saturday May 08, 2021 @02:23PM (#27089546)
RPM Red-Hat, RPM SuSE, deb, tar balls, snap, flatpak, nix, ....

Yeah, thankfully it doesn't happen on GNU/Linux.

Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by bawolff on Saturday May 08, 2021 @02:59PM (#27089800)
Yeah, but the average debian user just uses apt. Other people do other things, but as a debian user my experience is basically just one place, which is what matters.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by pjmlp on Saturday May 08, 2021 @03:12PM (#27089889)
For the developers it matters, and maybe they won't care to deal with deb, though luck.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by jayd16 on Saturday May 08, 2021 @02:07PM (#27089417)
>The fact that people just listed 4 competing tools shows exactly why this is a problem

yum, apt, snap, flatpack, probably more?

Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by cfn on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:02PM (#27088880)
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by teuna on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:23PM (#27089056)
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by encryptluks2 on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:31PM (#27089150)
Chocolatey is like 10x slower than Linux package management.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by smackeyacky on Sunday May 09, 2021 @08:08AM (#27095319)
Also the worst named package manager ever. I wanted to play with an RTOS for an embedded system a few weeks ago an the first step was "install chocolatey".

Not knowing what it was, I had to spend some time reading about chocolatey.

I know it must be some 3rd generation pun or something but it really put me off going any further. Names are important.

Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by bawolff on Saturday May 08, 2021 @02:58PM (#27089790)
Indeed, windows is moving in that direction. Back in the windows XP era, it really did feel revolutionary.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014) by pjmlp on Saturday May 08, 2021 @03:23PM (#27089954)
It is orthogonal to this discussion, but had Windows NT offered a serious POSIX environment I would never bothered with Linux to start with.