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Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by willcipriano on Thursday May 06, 2021 @07:58AM (#27061924)
Contract is a instant no for me. I've done the math and haven't found them to be competitive long term after what the above commenter mentioned (and that's before all the headaches of actually getting paid). Most of my peers feel the same way.
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by sam_lowry_ on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:07AM (#27061999)
I contracted for 10 years, then switched to a full-time job at a unicorn. Salary-wise, I calculated my yearly netto for the last contracting year, and submitted it to the HR as the netto salary I want to have. They approved in a blink of an eye.

The main problem with contracting is lack of career path and random, not very interesting projects where the contractor has little say.

The downside of employee life is non-technical meetings, personality trainings and yearly reviews. They make me feel like a kid.

I also miss the luxury of buying VAT-free tax-deducible gadgets.

Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by qorrect on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:53AM (#27063201)
> I also miss the luxury of buying VAT-free tax-deducible gadgets.

Like what kind of gadgets ?

Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by sam_lowry_ on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:19AM (#27063611)
Bikes are the most interesting. 120% deductable where I live. Notebooks, phones, various hardware. I have half a dozen Mikrotik routers, for example. Some serve their purpose at home, others are for playing.
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by stewx on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:55AM (#27062474)
What is personality training?
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by sam_lowry_ on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:20AM (#27063648)
We had a dumbed down MBTI offspring. And a security training. And the bias/unconscious bias/unknown bias training. And a few more that I can not remember.
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:13AM (#27062704)
Been contracting for decades. Wouldn't do it any other way.

The critical thing is to get a pipeline of folks you know that send work your way. So rarely idle. That was done by working 15 years in the field in a variety of companies. I keep in contact with many old colleagues and remind them I've got bandwidth.

I never made more money than I do contracting now. I've never had to 'chase down money' - never had a bad check, never been stiffed. Had some late checks for sure. Probably due to the quality of my contacts.

Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by deliriousferret on Saturday May 08, 2021 @08:00PM (#27091938)
What kind of day rate do you manage to pull?
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:06AM (#27195626)
It depends. Some midwestern companies want to pay < $100/hr. Californians will pay up to $145/hr for special skills. New York is accustomed to outrageous fees. I feel bad about taking advantage them so I only go up to $165/hr or so. And of course for assurances about hours and duration of the project, discounts.
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by cookguyruffles on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:05AM (#27061990)
You cannot put a price on career-long isolation from office politics
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by bavell on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:14AM (#27062712)
This is one of my favorite parts about contracting... you still have to deal with a little bit of office politics and drama but you're mostly shielded from it. I love dropping in once a week or so, greasing the relationship wheels, and getting the heck outta there.
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by ghaff on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:57AM (#27062507)
Instead you have politics at the companies hiring you.
Re:Ask HN: How to attract perm Snr Engs when the contract ma... by Nursie on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:47AM (#27062392)
Which country?