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Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by FooBarBizBazz on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @10:24PM (#27045469)
> husband

Yup. Pro tip: If you're at a SV-influenced company and you find yourself talking about your personal life, don't say "husband," "wife," "boyfriend," or "girlfriend;" say "partner." That signals that you're an Ally rather than an Enemy.

You'll notice other weird speech patterns too. Pay attention to them; they're meaningful.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by wyclif on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:49AM (#27046302)
I often see that peculiar speech pattern here on HN! It's like they're afraid to say 'wife' out of fear of offending the woke mob. The same people who are OK with work being a constant struggle seminar.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by shagie on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:29PM (#27052903)
I use "sibling" rather than "brother" or "sister" and "parent" rather than "mother" or "father" to reduce information leakage. "Partner" could find the same use.

This isn't any woke thing - its just a "don't reveal information that isn't necessary."

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by t0mbstone on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @02:53PM (#27054095)
Ah, yes. Let's just obfuscate every humanizing aspect of our lives to ensure we are seen as a replaceable cogs in the money making machine instead of real people with feelings.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by jyounker on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @04:13PM (#27055069)
^^^ This. So much this. My boss isn't entitle to know the details of my life, nor is the company, nor are my co-workers.

You earn the details of my life by being my friend, not through a contractual relationship.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by thrownaway564 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @10:30PM (#27045498)
Truth. from the "guidance" page:

"More inclusive: Spouses/partners <> Less inclusive: Wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends"

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by t0mbstone on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @02:57PM (#27054137)
But isn't your restriction of my language and how I refer to the people I love pretty much the opposite of "inclusion"?

What if my wife would prefer if I referred to her as my "wife" instead of as a generic, faceless "partner"? By insisting that I refer to her as a genderless "partner", you are failing to respect her chosen pronoun.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by joshuamorton on Thursday May 06, 2021 @01:42AM (#27059556)
This is almost certainly for product or marketing materials, and not for you talking about your personal relationships. That is Okta should not talk about building a security tool for you and your wife to use, but instead for you and your partner to use.

Because I have no clue who your partner is (or really if you have one) so I shouldn't assume until I have that information. Note that the words in the example are all plural, presumably referring to multiple other peoples' partners.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by t0mbstone on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:32PM (#27065719)
Oh, I see what you are saying. I can definitely get behind the use of gender neutral language in product and marketing materials. That part makes sense anyways.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by evrydayhustling on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @11:59PM (#27046034)
Curious about the context here - is the guidance page suggesting how to refer to your own relationships, or when referring to an abstract group of relationships?
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by whywhywhywhy on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @06:59AM (#27048396)
What word do they suggest in place of 'hacker'?